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Old 07-20-2005, 13:02   #1 (permalink)
Paul
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fixing the water pump P gasket

just ordered a P gasket from beamends ready for this weekend, had a quick
look at what's involved. does this sound about right-
remove fan top cowling
loosen bolts on water pump and power steering pulleys
remove belt and pulleys
swing alternator out the way
do i have to remove the tensioner or will it swing out the way?
is there enough room to do all this with the fan still fitted looks tight?
i plan to leave the water pump fitted to its manifold and remove the whole
lot, good idea?
anything else i have not thought about, or particularly difficult to get to
bolts?

Paul.


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Old 07-20-2005, 15:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

On or around Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:27:58 +0100, "Paul"
<paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>just ordered a P gasket from beamends ready for this weekend, had a quick
>look at what's involved. does this sound about right-
>remove fan top cowling
>loosen bolts on water pump and power steering pulleys
>remove belt and pulleys
>swing alternator out the way
>do i have to remove the tensioner or will it swing out the way?
>is there enough room to do all this with the fan still fitted looks tight?
>i plan to leave the water pump fitted to its manifold and remove the whole
>lot, good idea?
>anything else i have not thought about, or particularly difficult to get to
>bolts?
>


there's a cover bolt with a nut on it under the alternator.

I removed the fan, and the cowling. I also sawed the cowling in half
vertically, so it can now be removed without removing the fan first. It
goes back on OK like this. Fecking silly design, so it is - there's not
quite scope for getting the cowling out without removing the fan.


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Old 07-20-2005, 15:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:27:58 +0100, "Paul"
> <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>just ordered a P gasket from beamends ready for this weekend, had a quick
>>look at what's involved. does this sound about right-
>>remove fan top cowling
>>loosen bolts on water pump and power steering pulleys
>>remove belt and pulleys
>>swing alternator out the way
>>do i have to remove the tensioner or will it swing out the way?
>>is there enough room to do all this with the fan still fitted looks tight?
>>i plan to leave the water pump fitted to its manifold and remove the whole
>>lot, good idea?
>>anything else i have not thought about, or particularly difficult to get to
>>bolts?
>>

>
>
> there's a cover bolt with a nut on it under the alternator.
>
> I removed the fan, and the cowling. I also sawed the cowling in half
> vertically, so it can now be removed without removing the fan first. It
> goes back on OK like this. Fecking silly design, so it is - there's not
> quite scope for getting the cowling out without removing the fan.
>
>


austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
swing out the way.

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Old 07-20-2005, 15:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

On or around Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:24:36 +0100, paul
<paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:27:58 +0100, "Paul"
>> <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>
>>>just ordered a P gasket from beamends ready for this weekend, had a quick
>>>look at what's involved. does this sound about right-
>>>remove fan top cowling
>>>loosen bolts on water pump and power steering pulleys
>>>remove belt and pulleys
>>>swing alternator out the way
>>>do i have to remove the tensioner or will it swing out the way?
>>>is there enough room to do all this with the fan still fitted looks tight?
>>>i plan to leave the water pump fitted to its manifold and remove the whole
>>>lot, good idea?
>>>anything else i have not thought about, or particularly difficult to get to
>>>bolts?
>>>

>>
>>
>> there's a cover bolt with a nut on it under the alternator.
>>
>> I removed the fan, and the cowling. I also sawed the cowling in half
>> vertically, so it can now be removed without removing the fan first. It
>> goes back on OK like this. Fecking silly design, so it is - there's not
>> quite scope for getting the cowling out without removing the fan.
>>
>>

>
>austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
>swing out the way.


The whole belt tensioner comes off by undoing the 15mm nut. Not the one in
the middle of the pulley - use a 15mm on that with a long bar to release the
tension so as to remove the belt (having loosened those pesky pulley bolts
first) then remove the belt and then the tensioner.

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Old 07-21-2005, 02:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

In message <bfftd115bhldp62j9trcqr6h5hlptrlidm@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> writes
>>austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
>>swing out the way.



There is a bolt behind the tensioner pivot that needs to some off.
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Old 07-21-2005, 03:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

On or around Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:08:48 +0100, Marc Draper
<marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <bfftd115bhldp62j9trcqr6h5hlptrlidm@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
><austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> writes
>>>austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
>>>swing out the way.

>
>
>There is a bolt behind the tensioner pivot that needs to some off.


Oh yes, so there is. I knew there was a reason for removing it.

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Old 07-22-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket


"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
news:m0pud119f798m6sqks1ikflsipsmfri73h@4ax.com...
> On or around Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:08:48 +0100, Marc Draper
> <marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>In message <bfftd115bhldp62j9trcqr6h5hlptrlidm@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
>><austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> writes
>>>>austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
>>>>swing out the way.

>>
>>
>>There is a bolt behind the tensioner pivot that needs to some off.

>
> Oh yes, so there is. I knew there was a reason for removing it.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
> I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)


is it dificult to remove the viscous fan using a normal spanner ? i have
ordered a special spanner from difflock but will not get it until Tuesday.


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Old 07-22-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

In message <3kcanvFtkns8U1@individual.net>
"Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
> "Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
> news:m0pud119f798m6sqks1ikflsipsmfri73h@4ax.com...
> > On or around Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:08:48 +0100, Marc Draper
> > <marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>In message <bfftd115bhldp62j9trcqr6h5hlptrlidm@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
> >><austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> writes
> >>>>austin did you have to remove the belt tensioner arm too or does it
> >>>>swing out the way.
> >>
> >>
> >>There is a bolt behind the tensioner pivot that needs to some off.

> >
> > Oh yes, so there is. I knew there was a reason for removing it.
> >
> > --
> > Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> > "My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
> > I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)

>
> is it dificult to remove the viscous fan using a normal spanner ? i have
> ordered a special spanner from difflock but will not get it until Tuesday.
>
>


Use a chisel, or a screw driver you don't like very much - remembering
it is a left-hand thread. Once it is "cracked" it will undo easily by
hand.

Richard
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

In message <9258e8e4d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com>, beamendsltd
<beamendsltd@btconnect.com> writes
>Use a chisel, or a screw driver you don't like very much - remembering
>it is a left-hand thread. Once it is "cracked" it will undo easily by
>hand.



Ouch !!!

I love it when cars come in all chewed up by chisels !!!!
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: fixing the water pump P gasket

In message <Zw7v7mAJgf4CFwDJ@mdeng.demon.co.uk>
Marc Draper <marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <9258e8e4d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com>, beamendsltd
> <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> writes
> >Use a chisel, or a screw driver you don't like very much - remembering
> >it is a left-hand thread. Once it is "cracked" it will undo easily by
> >hand.

>
>
> Ouch !!!
>
> I love it when cars come in all chewed up by chisels !!!!


You shouldn't have to hit it hard enough to do anything other than
mark it! Now people who use chisels on hub nuts........


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