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Old 11-27-2005, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
Idris
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Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

Fuel pump isnt working on the 110 csw v8 I bought recently, not been an
issue because it starts ok on the lpg but need to get it sorted before I
find myself somewhere with no lpg.

Question is - is there somewher where there is a join in the loom so that I
can check that this is the pump and not a power supply problem before I go
to the trouble of dropping the tank.

Thanks

Gerald


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Old 11-27-2005, 04:01   #2 (permalink)
Bob Miller
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

"Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> Fuel pump isnt working on the 110 csw v8 I bought recently, not been an
> issue because it starts ok on the lpg but need to get it sorted before I
> find myself somewhere with no lpg.
>
> Question is - is there somewher where there is a join in the loom so that

I
> can check that this is the pump and not a power supply problem before I go
> to the trouble of dropping the tank.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerald
>
>

If it's the same as mine there's a plug and socket on the LHS just on the
top of the chassis about level with the front end of the tank.
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Bob Miller
1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17


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Old 11-27-2005, 09:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8


"Bob Miller" <bob.miller.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message
> news:dmbv9m$lj$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> > Fuel pump isnt working on the 110 csw v8 I bought recently, not been an
> > issue because it starts ok on the lpg but need to get it sorted before I
> > find myself somewhere with no lpg.
> >
> > Question is - is there somewher where there is a join in the loom so

that
> I
> > can check that this is the pump and not a power supply problem before I

go
> > to the trouble of dropping the tank.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> >

> If it's the same as mine there's a plug and socket on the LHS just on the
> top of the chassis about level with the front end of the tank.
> --
> Bob Miller
> 1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
> 1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17
>
>


Thanks Bob.
Exactly where you said it was, but tucked out of sight behind the chassis.
Got power so guess it is the pump. Probably burnt itself out when the
previous owners stopped putting any petrol in.

Gerald


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Old 11-27-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:49:47 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com>
wrote:

>
>Got power so guess it is the pump. Probably burnt itself out when the
>previous owners stopped putting any petrol in.


Sounds likely if it was left powered up when switched to LPG. There is
a bullet connector on the engine side of the bulkhead that supplies
power, I keep meaning to put a simple relay in there and have it
deactivated when LPG solenoid is powered.

AJH

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Old 11-29-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
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"AJH" <sylva@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:49:47 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Got power so guess it is the pump. Probably burnt itself out when the
>>previous owners stopped putting any petrol in.

>
> Sounds likely if it was left powered up when switched to LPG. There is
> a bullet connector on the engine side of the bulkhead that supplies
> power, I keep meaning to put a simple relay in there and have it
> deactivated when LPG solenoid is powered.
>
> AJH
>

Nice idea. If you have to pay full / new price for a new pump, you'll
certainly be doing that!


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Old 11-30-2005, 01:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

On or around Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:08:31 +0100, AJH <sylva@despammed.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:49:47 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Got power so guess it is the pump. Probably burnt itself out when the
>>previous owners stopped putting any petrol in.

>
>Sounds likely if it was left powered up when switched to LPG. There is
>a bullet connector on the engine side of the bulkhead that supplies
>power, I keep meaning to put a simple relay in there and have it
>deactivated when LPG solenoid is powered.


If you have petrol in the tank, leaving the pump on shouldn't hurt it - the
pump is designed to run continuously, after all. Running it dry for any
length of time is probably a bad idea.

I thought about switching it off but decided against it - with the pump
running, switching back to petrol is pretty much instant, if you off the
pump I imagine the pressure will slowly disappear from the high-pressure
side of the petrol system, and then when you change over it will take time
to re-pressurise. Sometimes, when you suddenly find you're out of gas for
accelerating, you don't want a delay while the petrol makes up it's mind to
appear.

This assumes that you've got the petrol system being disabled by
interrupting the electrical supply to the injectors, of course.
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Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero" (sieze today, and put
as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8
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Old 11-30-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:22:11 +0000, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>If you have petrol in the tank, leaving the pump on shouldn't hurt it - the
>pump is designed to run continuously, after all. Running it dry for any
>length of time is probably a bad idea.


'swot I thought.
>
>I thought about switching it off but decided against it - with the pump
>running, switching back to petrol is pretty much instant, if you off the
>pump I imagine the pressure will slowly disappear from the high-pressure
>side of the petrol system, and then when you change over it will take time
>to re-pressurise. Sometimes, when you suddenly find you're out of gas for
>accelerating, you don't want a delay while the petrol makes up it's mind to
>appear.


Good excuse, as mine can be a pig to make a second start from hot on
gas I like petrol to be readily available. The other thing I haven't
done is lift the dashpot pistons.
>
>This assumes that you've got the petrol system being disabled by
>interrupting the electrical supply to the injectors, of course.


As I implied, this has good ole SUs

AJH

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Old 12-02-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Pump 110 cws V8

Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:

> If you have petrol in the tank, leaving the pump on shouldn't hurt it
> - the pump is designed to run continuously, after all. Running it
> dry for any length of time is probably a bad idea.
>
> I thought about switching it off but decided against it - with the
> pump running, switching back to petrol is pretty much instant, if you
> off the pump I imagine the pressure will slowly disappear from the
> high-pressure side of the petrol system, and then when you change
> over it will take time to re-pressurise. Sometimes, when you
> suddenly find you're out of gas for accelerating, you don't want a
> delay while the petrol makes up it's mind to appear.
>
> This assumes that you've got the petrol system being disabled by
> interrupting the electrical supply to the injectors, of course.


My system "Bigas" has a delay in the change over from petrol to gas of 30
seconds to allow the gas to get to where it's needed. I wonder if it would
do the same in reverse for the petrol. At present it's pretty instantaneous.
Multitude of tweaks were available via the PC. Tis an injection system.

Lee D


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