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Old 07-01-2005, 04:02   #1 (permalink)
Huw
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Future of TD5

Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now shut
down?
I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
in-house by Land Rover then?
There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of around
150hp before long. Anyone know about this?


Huw


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Old 07-01-2005, 04:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now shut
>down?
>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>in-house by Land Rover then?
>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of around
>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>
>
>Huw


I though that the only land rover engine made by MG rover was the
(k-series?) petrol engine in the freelander, of which land rover have
huge stocks to get them by until the model facelift and new engine
goes in, now sure when that is.


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Old 07-01-2005, 04:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now shut
>down?
>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>in-house by Land Rover then?
>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of around
>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>
>
>Huw
>


I thought it was in-house, but ICBW.

2006 Freelander is going to need something in place of the BMW 2.0
diesel. I'd guess something about 150hp, and viable to share with
Mondeo / Focus / Volvo V50....


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Old 07-01-2005, 04:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5


"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:955ac154mmc5nf46j0mfp6p00t83epubll@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now
>>shut
>>down?
>>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>>in-house by Land Rover then?
>>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of
>>around
>>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>>
>>
>>Huw

>
> I though that the only land rover engine made by MG rover was the
> (k-series?) petrol engine in the freelander, of which land rover have
> huge stocks to get them by until the model facelift and new engine
> goes in, now sure when that is.
>


Now this I do know. Exports of V6 Freelanders has been suspended due to lack
of engines. There are none left.

Huw


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Old 07-01-2005, 06:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:29:51 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
>news:955ac154mmc5nf46j0mfp6p00t83epubll@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
>> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now
>>>shut
>>>down?
>>>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>>>in-house by Land Rover then?
>>>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of
>>>around
>>>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>>>
>>>
>>>Huw

>>
>> I though that the only land rover engine made by MG rover was the
>> (k-series?) petrol engine in the freelander, of which land rover have
>> huge stocks to get them by until the model facelift and new engine
>> goes in, now sure when that is.
>>

>
>Now this I do know. Exports of V6 Freelanders has been suspended due to lack
>of engines. There are none left.
>
>Huw
>


The 1.8 is probably a different kettle of badgers though.

The 2006 Freelander is a brand new model, not a facelift. The
production line is new, and at Halewood.


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Old 07-01-2005, 06:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

On or around Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:09:55 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<tim@101ambulance-urine.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
><hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now shut
>>down?
>>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>>in-house by Land Rover then?
>>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of around
>>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>>
>>
>>Huw
>>

>
>I thought it was in-house, but ICBW.
>
>2006 Freelander is going to need something in place of the BMW 2.0
>diesel. I'd guess something about 150hp, and viable to share with
>Mondeo / Focus / Volvo V50....


Ford TDCi I should think.

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Old 07-01-2005, 06:02   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
> On or around Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:09:55 +0100, Tim Hobbs
> <tim@101ambulance-urine.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
>> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now
>>> shut down?
>>> I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>>> in-house by Land Rover then?
>>> There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of
>>> around 150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>>>
>>>
>>> Huw
>>>

>>
>> I thought it was in-house, but ICBW.
>>
>> 2006 Freelander is going to need something in place of the BMW 2.0
>> diesel. I'd guess something about 150hp, and viable to share with
>> Mondeo / Focus / Volvo V50....

>
> Ford TDCi I should think.


Which, in the Mondeo and Focus, certainly is a cracking engine. ICBA
myself, but it might be interesting to look at the relative weights of a
Mondeo and Freelander to see what the likely power difference might be ...

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Old 07-01-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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"Tim Hobbs" <tim@101ambulance-urine.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:29:51 +0100, "Huw"
> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
>>news:955ac154mmc5nf46j0mfp6p00t83epubll@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:28 +0100, "Huw"
>>> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Isn't the TD5 made by the Powertrain division of MG/Rover which has now
>>>>shut
>>>>down?
>>>>I thought it was but have not heard of its demise yet. Maybe it is made
>>>>in-house by Land Rover then?
>>>>There are rumours that it will be replaced by a Ford four cylinder of
>>>>around
>>>>150hp before long. Anyone know about this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Huw
>>>
>>> I though that the only land rover engine made by MG rover was the
>>> (k-series?) petrol engine in the freelander, of which land rover have
>>> huge stocks to get them by until the model facelift and new engine
>>> goes in, now sure when that is.
>>>

>>
>>Now this I do know. Exports of V6 Freelanders has been suspended due to
>>lack
>>of engines. There are none left.
>>
>>Huw
>>

>
> The 1.8 is probably a different kettle of badgers though.


I don't believe there are any significant numbers of petrol engines left.
They don't tend to stockpile these things by the thousand because it costs
too much to do so in storage and intrest charges.

>
> The 2006 Freelander is a brand new model, not a facelift. The
> production line is new, and at Halewood.
>


So it would appear. In all probability they will share Ford engines with
Jaguar. Not a bad thing because Ford engines are now as good as any.

Huw


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Old 07-01-2005, 09:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Future of TD5

Powertrain are responsible for the V6 as well I think. One of the mags
says Freelander is being withdrawn from the US pending new model to
conserve engine supplies, sales had dived anyway. The demise of the K
series engine is no great loss although a deal was done apparantly to
ensure supply.

TD4 is BMW and I can see them dropping that soon. Having had both ford
focus and volvo V50, I can see nothing wrong with using modern Ford
diesels in the freebie.

With regard to the TD5, it's in house but rumour has it that Ford
diesels will be used in the Defender as TD5 won't meet emmission regs.
i assume it will be one of the Transit Engines.

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Old 07-01-2005, 11:02   #10 (permalink)
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>With regard to the TD5, it's in house but rumour has it that Ford
>diesels will be used in the Defender as TD5 won't meet emmission regs.
>i assume it will be one of the Transit Engines.
>
>Sean
>73FL74 101GS
>1984 110 2.5D
>Medway Military Vehicle Group
>www.mmvg.net


Nothing else would make any sense. They aren't likely to buy in an
engine from elsewhere and it would be a brave man who suggested
developing a brand new unit bespoke for the Defender!


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