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Old 12-11-2005, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
Andrew Renshaw
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Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

Hi all,

Well I got some shiny new side steps off e-bay for my Defender 110 2.5TDI
CSW (1991). I noted how they fit on. So two bolts to the back chassis leg
(bolts provided and holes already drilled) - no problems.

Ah but you have to undo the bolt for the front chassis leg. Great big thing,
that refuses to turn. Soaked it in WD40, nope did not want to know. So Mr
Blowtorch and nice red hot bolt, nope refused to turn and gave me some pain
to my knuckles. So heated the bolt and immediately put cold water on the
thread thinking this would cause rapid contraction and break any corrosion.
Nope.

So here is the question, can I cut the bolt off with Mr Angle Grinder - of
course putting a new stainless steel one on - or will the body drop down
once I remove the bolt? I would love to get my side steps fitted.

Any help please.

Yours

Andy



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Old 12-11-2005, 15:01   #2 (permalink)
William Tasso
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Re: Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

Andrew Renshaw <andrew@preaching.co.uk> wrote:

> ...
> but you have to undo the bolt for the front chassis leg. Great big thing,
> that refuses to turn. ...
>
> So here is the question, can I cut the bolt off with Mr Angle Grinder -


have you tried Messers Hammer & Chisel or indeed an impact driver?

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Old 12-11-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

Oh yes - they were brought out of miss Toolbox - it must be a miss, as it
seems to cost me money every week, little bit like my four daughters.

Andy

"William Tasso" <spamblocked@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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> Andrew Renshaw <andrew@preaching.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> but you have to undo the bolt for the front chassis leg. Great big thing,
>> that refuses to turn. ...
>>
>> So here is the question, can I cut the bolt off with Mr Angle Grinder -

>
> have you tried Messers Hammer & Chisel or indeed an impact driver?
>
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Old 12-11-2005, 15:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

Andrew Renshaw <andrew@preaching.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Oh yes - they were brought out of miss Toolbox - it must be a miss,
> as it seems to cost me money every week, little bit like my four
> daughters.


If it's the same as the series ones and runs horizontal then you should have
no real problems. I'd jack under the support to take the weight. Chock
between the body and the outrigger. Don't over do it or it'll shift up once
free. It should be secured by the footwell to chassis braces as well as the
other side. I'd also avoid opening the doors during the process as they will
help keep things as in line as Landies get.

Lee D


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Old 12-12-2005, 04:01   #5 (permalink)
willie.macleod@gmail.com
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Re: Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

Andrew Renshaw wrote:

> Ah but you have to undo the bolt for the front chassis leg. Great big thing,
> that refuses to turn. Soaked it in WD40, nope did not want to know. So Mr
> Blowtorch and nice red hot bolt, nope refused to turn and gave me some pain
> to my knuckles. So heated the bolt and immediately put cold water on the
> thread thinking this would cause rapid contraction and break any corrosion.
> Nope.


?! Forget about blowtorch, you need a breaker bar - about 3 ft long
would be ideal. And a set of six sided impact sockets to go with it.
WD40 and blowtorches are all very well, but not suitable replacements
for brute force. Witht he breaker bar you'll either snap the bolt
(saves getting the grinder out) or it'll unthread. And the chances are
it'll unthread.

> So here is the question, can I cut the bolt off with Mr Angle Grinder - of
> course putting a new stainless steel one on - or will the body drop down
> once I remove the bolt? I would love to get my side steps fitted.


It'll be fine, just put a bottle jack under the bulkhead to support it,
but it probably won't drop very much anyway as the bulkhead is still
supported by another bracket from the footwell to the chassis. You'll
need a long pin punch to drive the bolt out though.

Shopping list:

3 foot breaker bar
Air impact socket set
Punch set
Copper headed hammer (doesn't do so much damage when you're hammering
the sockets on)

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William MacLeod

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Old 12-12-2005, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Grrrrrr fitting side steps to a Defender 110

On or around 12 Dec 2005 03:23:26 -0800, willie.macleod@gmail.com
enlightened us thusly:
>
>Shopping list:
>
>3 foot breaker bar
>Air impact socket set
>Punch set
>Copper headed hammer (doesn't do so much damage when you're hammering
>the sockets on)


Been playing with air impact wrench here. It won't undo the minibus
wheelnuts, even with a decent-sized compressor. Mind, it is a cheap impact
gun. I obviously did 'em up tighter than I thought I had with the BFO
breaker bar.


BTW - apropos wheelnuts, and this is for LR ones too: draper do a deep 27mm
socket described as an M24 diesel injector socket, which is perfect for LR
wheelnuts. Apart, of course, from the early ones that aren't 27mm.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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Austin Shackles wrote:

> Been playing with air impact wrench here. It won't undo the minibus
> wheelnuts, even with a decent-sized compressor. Mind, it is a cheap impact
> gun.


That'll be the problem Austin - the cheap ones are absolute shite.
Informal testing (ie lads were bored over a beer on a Friday afternoon)
of a cheap Taiwanese one showed it was lucky to produce 200lbf of torque
- that compares to my newest 1/2" drive impact wrench is rated at
700lbf, and seems true to spec.


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Old 12-12-2005, 14:01   #8 (permalink)
willie@macleod-group.com
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Austin Shackles wrote:

> Been playing with air impact wrench here. It won't undo the minibus
> wheelnuts, even with a decent-sized compressor. Mind, it is a cheap impact
> gun. I obviously did 'em up tighter than I thought I had with the BFO
> breaker bar.


Hi Austin,

Time to break out the scaffold tube ;-) The only piece of Snap-On
equipment I use is one of their 1/2" impact wrenches which I think was
originally used by Noah to build his ark! Couple of drops of oil every
day that it's used and it's away - I normally only use impact wrenches
for things I can't hold easily while undoing like brake discs from hubs
etc. But do make sure yours is well lubricated as dried out seals lead
to much poorer performance from air tools

> BTW - apropos wheelnuts, and this is for LR ones too: draper do a deep 27mm
> socket described as an M24 diesel injector socket, which is perfect for LR
> wheelnuts. Apart, of course, from the early ones that aren't 27mm.


If the original poster follows the shopping list, he'll get a 27mm
socket in his set.... probably not deep enough for injector removal
though.

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William MacLeod

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Old 12-12-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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On or around Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:51:20 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> Been playing with air impact wrench here. It won't undo the minibus
>> wheelnuts, even with a decent-sized compressor. Mind, it is a cheap impact
>> gun.

>
>That'll be the problem Austin - the cheap ones are absolute shite.
>Informal testing (ie lads were bored over a beer on a Friday afternoon)
>of a cheap Taiwanese one showed it was lucky to produce 200lbf of torque
>- that compares to my newest 1/2" drive impact wrench is rated at
>700lbf, and seems true to spec.


well it was only 30 quid. in fact, though I think it's rated about 200 lb
ft. However, that's about what the wheelnuts should be. I'd not be
surprised to find 'em tighter though, after i'd gorilla-ed them with the big
cracking bar.

I'll have to play with it and a torque wrench, and see what it does.

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Old 12-12-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
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On or around 12 Dec 2005 13:27:43 -0800, "willie@macleod-group.com"
<willie@macleod-group.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> Been playing with air impact wrench here. It won't undo the minibus
>> wheelnuts, even with a decent-sized compressor. Mind, it is a cheap impact
>> gun. I obviously did 'em up tighter than I thought I had with the BFO
>> breaker bar.

>
>Hi Austin,
>
>Time to break out the scaffold tube ;-) The only piece of Snap-On
>equipment I use is one of their 1/2" impact wrenches which I think was
>originally used by Noah to build his ark! Couple of drops of oil every
>day that it's used and it's away - I normally only use impact wrenches
>for things I can't hold easily while undoing like brake discs from hubs
>etc. But do make sure yours is well lubricated as dried out seals lead
>to much poorer performance from air tools


I bunged a load of oil through it today, and also undid the little plug in
the side where it says "OIL" and put some in there for good measure.

I'll experiment further with some bolts and see how tight it goes. If it
turns out to be crap, well, swings and roundabouts, ain't it - I'll have to
buy a better one, put it down to experience or something.

>
>If the original poster follows the shopping list, he'll get a 27mm
>socket in his set.... probably not deep enough for injector removal
>though.



The nice thing about the injector socket is the depth, plus it's single hex.
The depth means the handle clears the bodywork without using an extension.
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