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Old 04-13-2005, 12:02   #1 (permalink)
Jason Seward
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HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

Hi guys,
Hoping someone can help me - Just bought a standard 1978 Diesel 109
SeriesIII. Wanting to rig a few lights here and there can anyone
recommend an alternator that will bolt straight on so I can power the
things? Planning a row of four across the top of the roof rack, four
along the bumper, two rearward facing lamps and a rear fog light. Don't
suppose an original shape V8 Vogue unit would fit would it? .

Cheers guys
Jase
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Old 04-13-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
Paul S. Brown
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

Jason Seward wrote:

> Hi guys,
> Hoping someone can help me - Just bought a standard 1978 Diesel 109
> SeriesIII. Wanting to rig a few lights here and there can anyone
> recommend an alternator that will bolt straight on so I can power the
> things? Planning a row of four across the top of the roof rack, four
> along the bumper, two rearward facing lamps and a rear fog light. Don't
> suppose an original shape V8 Vogue unit would fit would it? .
>


Hmm - you need 605W to drive that lot at once - more or less 55A from the
alternator. Is the Series alternator not rated around this anyway?

The other idea could be to stick a second battery in and run off that on the
basis you won't be running all lights all of the time.

P.
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1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
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Old 04-13-2005, 13:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER


>
> Hmm - you need 605W to drive that lot at once - more or less 55A from
> the alternator. Is the Series alternator not rated around this anyway?
>
> The other idea could be to stick a second battery in and run off that
> on the basis you won't be running all lights all of the time.
>
> P.


Cheers Paul, appreciate the quick response - not sure about the rating on
the exsisting one - will check. I'm a bit of a newbie at electrics and such
I can only just manage a service:-)
Indeed will not be running ALL at once but may have all my forwards on from
time to time, planning a bank of toggle switches governed by a master so
you can in essence pre select what you want then flick a switch when you
need them.
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Old 04-13-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

"Paul S. Brown" <landies@geekstuff.tv> wrote in
news:ht60j2-sah.ln1@snoopy.intra.geekstuff.me.uk:

> Jason Seward wrote:
>

Hiya again Paul
Looking in owners handbook:- says 'Batt Cap 95 AH' and 'Charging circuit
Alternator 16ACR' does that mean I'm good to go or not??? :-)
cheers mate

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Old 04-13-2005, 13:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

Jason Seward wrote:

> "Paul S. Brown" <landies@geekstuff.tv> wrote in
> news:ht60j2-sah.ln1@snoopy.intra.geekstuff.me.uk:
>
>> Jason Seward wrote:
>>

> Hiya again Paul
> Looking in owners handbook:- says 'Batt Cap 95 AH' and 'Charging circuit
> Alternator 16ACR' does that mean I'm good to go or not??? :-)
> cheers mate


Apparently the 16ACR is a 34A alternator. Not really good to go, no. You'll
drain your battery in quicktime if you try it with that.

Back to looking for a bigger alternator. I'm afraid I can't think of
anything to suggest.

P.
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1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
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Old 04-13-2005, 14:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

On or around Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:39:58 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<landies@geekstuff.tv> enlightened us thusly:

>Jason Seward wrote:
>
>> "Paul S. Brown" <landies@geekstuff.tv> wrote in
>> news:ht60j2-sah.ln1@snoopy.intra.geekstuff.me.uk:
>>
>>> Jason Seward wrote:
>>>

>> Hiya again Paul
>> Looking in owners handbook:- says 'Batt Cap 95 AH' and 'Charging circuit
>> Alternator 16ACR' does that mean I'm good to go or not??? :-)
>> cheers mate

>
>Apparently the 16ACR is a 34A alternator. Not really good to go, no. You'll
>drain your battery in quicktime if you try it with that.
>
>Back to looking for a bigger alternator. I'm afraid I can't think of
>anything to suggest.


later range rovers (after about 1984, I expect) have 65A (A127/65) or 80A
(A133/80) lucas. There are loads of Bosch ones; most of the sierras seem to
be fitted with 'em. On the bosch ones they have the rating on a little
coloured label.

earlier RRs have progressively smaller ones - round about 1980 they started
having the lucas 20ACR/25ACR, which is 65A or so.

try such things as sierras; but note first which hand it is - with the 2
mounting bolt holes at 6 o'clock, the tensioner hole is either at 2 o'clock
or at 10 o'clock, looking from the pulley end.

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Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)
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Old 04-13-2005, 14:02   #7 (permalink)
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Arse, Bugger, Bum!

Cheers anyhoo, Paul :-)
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Old 04-13-2005, 14:02   #8 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

I seem to recall the 'standard' Seris III alternator was 34A.
Richard


"Paul S. Brown" <landies@geekstuff.tv> wrote in message
news:ht60j2-sah.ln1@snoopy.intra.geekstuff.me.uk...
> Jason Seward wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> Hoping someone can help me - Just bought a standard 1978 Diesel 109
>> SeriesIII. Wanting to rig a few lights here and there can anyone
>> recommend an alternator that will bolt straight on so I can power the
>> things? Planning a row of four across the top of the roof rack, four
>> along the bumper, two rearward facing lamps and a rear fog light. Don't
>> suppose an original shape V8 Vogue unit would fit would it? .
>>

>
> Hmm - you need 605W to drive that lot at once - more or less 55A from the
> alternator. Is the Series alternator not rated around this anyway?
>
> The other idea could be to stick a second battery in and run off that on
> the
> basis you won't be running all lights all of the time.
>
> P.
> --
> 1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
> 1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
> 2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
> 1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel



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Old 04-13-2005, 16:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: HELP, I NEED MORE POWER

Cheers Austin you're a star:-)

....and he saw that the light was good.
>


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