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Old 08-06-2005, 01:01   #1 (permalink)
Cassillis
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High lift Jack

Hi all, looking for a bit of advice on the purchase of a high lift style
jack. I own a defender 90 and currently have no way of jacking it if I get a
flat.
What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts? Where do they attach to the
vehicle when in use and do I need any add on bits for it, base plate jack
adapters for a 90 etc?
Some links to photos of them in use would be a great help too
Thanks in advance

Graeme


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Old 08-06-2005, 02:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack

http://www.hi-lift.com/

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"Cassillis" <graeme.culzean@removebtinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, looking for a bit of advice on the purchase of a high lift style
> jack. I own a defender 90 and currently have no way of jacking it if I get
> a
> flat.
> What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts? Where do they attach to the
> vehicle when in use and do I need any add on bits for it, base plate jack
> adapters for a 90 etc?
> Some links to photos of them in use would be a great help too
> Thanks in advance
>
> Graeme
>
>



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Old 08-06-2005, 02:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack


"Nigel" <nigelAT@leginDOT.org> wrote in message
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> http://www.hi-lift.com/
>



Excellent! thanks for the link Nigel.

Graeme


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Old 08-06-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack

> What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts?

Do not leave the jack under load with the handle away from the clipped
upright position, if you press the lever down to descend and you have a limb
or your head in the way, the handle will whip up and strike - it hurts
lots!!!!!

Alistair


"Cassillis" <graeme.culzean@removebtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dd1p1d$h0h$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Hi all, looking for a bit of advice on the purchase of a high lift style
> jack. I own a defender 90 and currently have no way of jacking it if I get
> a
> flat.
> What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts? Where do they attach to the
> vehicle when in use and do I need any add on bits for it, base plate jack
> adapters for a 90 etc?
> Some links to photos of them in use would be a great help too
> Thanks in advance
>
> Graeme
>
>



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Old 08-06-2005, 05:01   #5 (permalink)
Richard
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Re: High lift Jack

We have a Jackall with an adaptor that goes on the toe to fit the original
jacking points on our 90. Assume you need one for a Hi-Lift too? We also
have jackallble sills from Rebel 4x4 so you can jack along the side.
For the base I use a square of plywood laminated to the thickness of about
2".
For storage in the back of the 90 I cut about 3" off the end and have it
clamped along the floor under the rear banch seat.
Richard



"Ali" <youcantspamme@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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>> What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts?

>
> Do not leave the jack under load with the handle away from the clipped
> upright position, if you press the lever down to descend and you have a
> limb or your head in the way, the handle will whip up and strike - it
> hurts lots!!!!!
>
> Alistair
>
>
> "Cassillis" <graeme.culzean@removebtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:dd1p1d$h0h$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Hi all, looking for a bit of advice on the purchase of a high lift style
>> jack. I own a defender 90 and currently have no way of jacking it if I
>> get a
>> flat.
>> What are the pro's and con's of the hi lifts? Where do they attach to the
>> vehicle when in use and do I need any add on bits for it, base plate jack
>> adapters for a 90 etc?
>> Some links to photos of them in use would be a great help too
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 08-06-2005, 15:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack

I would like to echo mothers comments re hi-lift jacks.
They are wonderfuly versitile (sp) implements in trained hands
and extremely dangerous in untrained hands.
Get one by all means but please learn how to use one properly before risking
lives with one.
For wheel changing i would recomend a good 3 to 5 tonne trolly jack or a
simular rated bottle jack.
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Old 08-07-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:39:30 GMT, "Shayne" <no.spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>I would like to echo mothers comments re hi-lift jacks.
>They are wonderfuly versitile (sp) implements in trained hands
>and extremely dangerous in untrained hands.


I find there's only one rule with Hi-lift jacks.

NEVER trust them. Never go underneath a vehicle supported by one,
never rely on one for lifting, never stand near one used as a spreader
etc etc etc.

Alex
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack

I agree. You can change a wheel with one but I hate doing it - had to
do it twice now.

I much prefer using the trolly jack.

Mine is a standard ht 90 with slightly bigger than standard wheels -
when on the end of a Hi-Lift the articulaion seems imense and you feel
as though you are lifting forever. If you have a 2" lift that will
only compund the issues.

if you do get one and you have to change a wheel, try to find a kerb
to rest the un-jacked side of the vehicle agains so that it cant slide
away from you. That said when you doo need it chances are you'll be
in a field and no kerbs about!

Jon

>
>Con: Think about this carefully. You jack from some part of the
>chassis or body - there's suspension, you have to raise a hi-lift VERY
>high before you get the wheel off the ground enough to change it. At
>that height the vehicle is somewhat unstable.
>


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Old 08-08-2005, 02:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 07:10:50 +0000 (UTC), Jon <nospam@nospam.com>
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>if you do get one and you have to change a wheel, try to find a kerb
>to rest the un-jacked side of the vehicle agains so that it cant slide
>away from you. That said when you doo need it chances are you'll be
>in a field and no kerbs about!



Most seem to agree that the hi lift type is not a safe way of jacking
a vehicle because they are not stable. It's this coupled with the way
the land rover handbrake works that makes the dangerous combination. I
think it's important to engage difflock and put vehicle in a low gear
but don't rely on the hi lift alone. They really come into their own
for jacking a bogged down or stuck vehicle clear of obstacles.

AJH
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: High lift Jack

On or around Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:00:02 +0200, AJH <sylva@despammed.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 07:10:50 +0000 (UTC), Jon <nospam@nospam.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>if you do get one and you have to change a wheel, try to find a kerb
>>to rest the un-jacked side of the vehicle agains so that it cant slide
>>away from you. That said when you doo need it chances are you'll be
>>in a field and no kerbs about!

>
>
>Most seem to agree that the hi lift type is not a safe way of jacking
>a vehicle because they are not stable. It's this coupled with the way
>the land rover handbrake works that makes the dangerous combination. I
>think it's important to engage difflock and put vehicle in a low gear
>but don't rely on the hi lift alone. They really come into their own
>for jacking a bogged down or stuck vehicle clear of obstacles.


'tis a fact that they're not really intended for "normal" jacking, I don't
think - the whole design is never going to be stable, in any case.

There's an obvious temptation, though, if the hi-lift is to hand, to grab
that and use it for wheel changing.

You shouldn't, of course, ever go under a vehicle without a fixed support
(wheels, a block or an axle stand).
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