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Old 08-19-2005, 10:01   #1 (permalink)
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Importing from England

If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous searches have
not produced an answer so I thought someone in this group might help.

My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has rekindled
my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying a diesel series
III for me and my bringing it to the USA and registering it here.

Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and whether or
not it is feasible?

Thanks

SGF


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Old 08-19-2005, 10:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England

In message <ZynNe.6261$1J2.57612@twister.southeast.rr.com>
"SGF" <pamlico_test@hot(removespam)mail.com> wrote:

> If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous searches have
> not produced an answer so I thought someone in this group might help.
>
> My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has rekindled
> my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying a diesel series
> III for me and my bringing it to the USA and registering it here.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and whether or
> not it is feasible?
>
> Thanks
>
> SGF
>
>


I'm sure if you do a Google search on this group you will find, if not
the answer, pointers to the right place. We have a constant eye out
for a customer who looks for pre-1972 Land Rovers with no welding
on the chassis (and not a replacement), so that's a starting point.

Richard
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England

beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <ZynNe.6261$1J2.57612@twister.southeast.rr.com>
> "SGF" <pamlico_test@hot(removespam)mail.com> wrote:
>
>> If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous
>> searches have not produced an answer so I thought someone in this
>> group might help.
>>
>> My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has
>> rekindled my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying
>> a diesel series III for me and my bringing it to the USA and
>> registering it here.
>>
>> Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and
>> whether or not it is feasible?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> SGF
>>
>>

>
> I'm sure if you do a Google search on this group you will find, if not
> the answer, pointers to the right place. We have a constant eye out
> for a customer who looks for pre-1972 Land Rovers with no welding
> on the chassis (and not a replacement), so that's a starting point.
>
> Richard


Found him many? ;~)

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Old 08-19-2005, 10:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England

A couple of local (ish) garages who seem to know what they are doing, give
them a ring I'm sure they will advice you.

http://www.landrovercentre.com/usa/welcome.htm
http://www.jakewright.com/vehicle/shipping.aspx

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"SGF" <pamlico_test@hot(removespam)mail.com> wrote in message
news:ZynNe.6261$1J2.57612@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous searches
> have
> not produced an answer so I thought someone in this group might help.
>
> My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has
> rekindled
> my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying a diesel series
> III for me and my bringing it to the USA and registering it here.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and whether
> or
> not it is feasible?
>
> Thanks
>
> SGF
>
>



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Old 08-20-2005, 01:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England

In message <3mmh42F178rs8U1@individual.net>
"Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote:
> > In message <ZynNe.6261$1J2.57612@twister.southeast.rr.com>
> > "SGF" <pamlico_test@hot(removespam)mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous
> >> searches have not produced an answer so I thought someone in this
> >> group might help.
> >>
> >> My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has
> >> rekindled my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying
> >> a diesel series III for me and my bringing it to the USA and
> >> registering it here.
> >>
> >> Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and
> >> whether or not it is feasible?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> SGF
> >>
> >>

> >
> > I'm sure if you do a Google search on this group you will find, if not
> > the answer, pointers to the right place. We have a constant eye out
> > for a customer who looks for pre-1972 Land Rovers with no welding
> > on the chassis (and not a replacement), so that's a starting point.
> >
> > Richard

>
> Found him many? ;~)
>


Nope...... except 101's. The customer with 4000 mile SIII isn't
selling!

Richard
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Old 08-20-2005, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England

> > >
> > > I'm sure if you do a Google search on this group you will find, if not
> > > the answer, pointers to the right place. We have a constant eye out
> > > for a customer who looks for pre-1972 Land Rovers with no welding
> > > on the chassis (and not a replacement), so that's a starting point.
> > >
> > > Richard

> >
> > Found him many? ;~)
> >

>
> Nope...... except 101's. The customer with 4000 mile SIII isn't
> selling!
>
> Richard
> --


For that criteria, you'd be better off searching for one from here, ie.
Australia. rare to find a chassis that HAS been welded.

back to the original question, i just had an american buy a landcruiser from
me, so i can run through my knowledge on the subject.

Firstly, get one thats over 25 years old. then you don't have to worry about
the vehicle complying with any design rules etc, and you can keep it
right-hand drive. so one with a build date of 08/1980 or earlier.

Second, you would be looking at around $1500 US for shipping. for the
landcruiser (just a little bigger than a LWB series) from Australia to US,
it cost $1600 US, so i reckon a landy from UK to US would be about the same,
give or take a couple of hundred.

as for websites for people that do it, i cant help you, sorry.

Hope this is helpful.

Sam.


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Old 08-20-2005, 14:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Importing from England


"SGF" <pamlico_test@hot(removespam)mail.com> wrote in message
news:ZynNe.6261$1J2.57612@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> If this subject has been covered before I apologize. Numerous searches

have
> not produced an answer so I thought someone in this group might help.
>
> My wife's family from England are visiting. My brother-in-law has

rekindled
> my interest in Land Rovers. I am interested in him buying a diesel series
> III for me and my bringing it to the USA and registering it here.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a Web site that outlines the process, and whether

or
> not it is feasible?
>
> Thanks
>
> SGF
>
>

A cut and paste from an international removalist's website.

If you want a good rust free Landrover try buying from Australia
and with the free trade agreement importing is a little bit easier.

CLEARING VEHICLES

To complete the process of clearing your vehicle through customs, you will
need any document covering the vehicle, including the carrier's original
bill of lading, the bill of sale and foreign registration. In addition, you
should consult your local automobile club or an international automobile
federation about obtaining the international Registration Marker - a permit
that must be displayed on all imported cars.

Safety and Emission Standards

An auto manufactured abroad may not be in compliance with U.S. safety or
emission standards. Therefore, you will be required to produce the foreign
manufacturer's statements verifying that the vehicle conforms with U.S.
safety and emission control standards. U.S. emission requirements apply to
all 1968 and later model year gasoline-fueled vehicles, 1975 and later model
year diesel-fueled vehicles, and motorcycles manufactured after December
31,1977. Since safety and emission requirements sometimes change over the
years, it is recommended that you contact one of the resources below for the
most up-to-date regulations applying to your vehicle.

For a copy of the free "Introduction Handbook for Complying with
Regulations of Imported Vehicles" and for information on safety standards,
contact:

U.S. Department of Transportation

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance, NSA-32

400 Seventh St. S.W.

Washington, D.C. 20590, U.S.A.

National Highway Traffic Safety

Administration Hotline: (800) 424-9393

To call from Canada: (202) 366-0123

Fax: (202) 366-1034

For the EPA's fact sheet on emission control standards or for other
inquiries regarding the importation of a vehicle, contact:

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Investigations / Imports Section Manufacturers

Operations Division (EN-340F)

Washington, D.C. 20460, U.S.A.

EPA Hotline: (202) 233-9660

Fax: (202) 233-9596



Below are some other important tips for clearing a vehicle through customs:

The U.S. Department of Agriculture required that all imported cars are free
from foreign soil. Consequently, you must have your car steam- sprayed or
cleaned thoroughly before shipping.

Do not ship personal belongings in your vehicle.

Any modifications that must be made to a vehicle imported into the United
States is based on the price paid or the invoice price. Contact your local
customs office for the current duty rate. A returning U.S. resident (one
returning from travel, work or study) may apply his or her $400.00 customs
exemption (as well as the exemptions of accompanying family members) toward
the value of the vehicle if it meets the following requirements:

The vehicle accompanies you on your return to the States.

It is imported for personal use.

The vehicle was purchased during your stay outside the United States.

After this exemption has been applied, the next $1,000.00 of the vehicle's
value is dutiable at a flat rate of 10% and the remainder is dutiable at the
regular rate.

You are entitled to import a foreign-made car if you are:

A U.S. citizen employed abroad, or a government employee returning from
temporary duty or on voluntary leave. These citizens may import a
foreign-made car free of duty provided they claim non-resident status, enter
the United States for only a short visit and export the vehicle when they
leave the States.

A civilian or military employee of the U.S government returning to the
United States at the end of an assignment of more than 140 days may include
a conforming vehicle among their duty-free personal and household goods
provided the auto was purchased abroad and was in the owner's possession
prior to his departure to the United States. Navy personnel serving a U.S.
vessel may be entitled to the free entry exemption after an intended
overseas deployment of at least 120 days.

A vehicle may be imported by a non-resident if the vehicle is for personal
use and is imported in conjunction with the owner's arrival. Vehicles
conforming to these restrictions may remain in the United States
indefinitely. If the conforming vehicle was imported under duty free
exemptions, it is dutiable if sold within one year of importation. This duty
must be paid before the sale is completed. Non-conforming vehicles may not
be sold in the United States and must be exported within one year.

A car imported by a non-resident for purposes other than personal, such as
racing, repair or as a sample for taking orders, is subject to specific
customs regulations. Check with your local customs office for guidelines
pertaining to unusual situations and exceptions.

Federal Tax

Some imported automobiles are subject to the "Gas Guzzler Tax" stipulated
in section 4064 of the Internal Revenue Code. Liability for the tax is the
responsibility of the individual importing the vehicle and the tax rate is
determined by the EPA's fuel economy rating. (This rating may differ from
the fuel economy rating cited by the manufacturer). Additionally, before
registering and titling your vehicle, many states require proof that you
have paid the "Gas Guzzlers Tax" in cases where it is applicable. For
information on the "Gas Guzzlers Tax" contact:

Internal Revenue Service

Room 5314

CC: DOM : P&SI

1111 Constitution Avenue N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20224, U.S.A.

Phone: (202) 622-3130

Fax: (202) 622-4524

You may also contact the ITS for information on determining fuel economy
rates. Ask for section 4064 of the Code, Revenue Procedure 86-9,1986-1
Cumulative Bulletin 530, Revenue Procedure 87-10,1987-4 Internal Revenue
Bulletin 29, and Revenue Ruling 86-20,1986-1 C.B. 319.

It should be evident from the foregoing information that importing a
vehicle is difficult. An individual may not be able to import one if it is
not in compliance with EPA and DOT requirements, unless a company approved
by the entities is the importer of record. EPA and DOT should be contacted
before you attempt to bring your vehicle into the United States.



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Old 08-20-2005, 16:01   #8 (permalink)
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<snip>
> A cut and paste from an international removalist's website.
>
> If you want a good rust free Landrover try buying from Australia
> and with the free trade agreement importing is a little bit easier.
>
> CLEARING VEHICLES
>
> To complete the process of clearing your vehicle through customs, you will
> need any document covering the vehicle, including the carrier's original
> bill of lading, the bill of sale and foreign registration. In addition,

you
> should consult your local automobile club or an international automobile
> federation about obtaining the international Registration Marker - a

permit
> that must be displayed on all imported cars.
>
> Safety and Emission Standards
>
> An auto manufactured abroad may not be in compliance with U.S. safety or
> emission standards. Therefore, you will be required to produce the foreign
> manufacturer's statements verifying that the vehicle conforms with U.S.
> safety and emission control standards. U.S. emission requirements apply to
> all 1968 and later model year gasoline-fueled vehicles, 1975 and later

model
> year diesel-fueled vehicles, and motorcycles manufactured after December
> 31,1977. Since safety and emission requirements sometimes change over the
> years, it is recommended that you contact one of the resources below for

the
> most up-to-date regulations applying to your vehicle.
>
> For a copy of the free "Introduction Handbook for Complying with
> Regulations of Imported Vehicles" and for information on safety standards,
> contact:
>
> U.S. Department of Transportation
>
> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
>
> Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance, NSA-32
>
> 400 Seventh St. S.W.
>
> Washington, D.C. 20590, U.S.A.
>
> National Highway Traffic Safety
>
> Administration Hotline: (800) 424-9393
>
> To call from Canada: (202) 366-0123
>
> Fax: (202) 366-1034
>
> For the EPA's fact sheet on emission control standards or for other
> inquiries regarding the importation of a vehicle, contact:
>
> U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
>
> Investigations / Imports Section Manufacturers
>
> Operations Division (EN-340F)
>
> Washington, D.C. 20460, U.S.A.
>
> EPA Hotline: (202) 233-9660
>
> Fax: (202) 233-9596
>
>
>
> Below are some other important tips for clearing a vehicle through

customs:
>
> The U.S. Department of Agriculture required that all imported cars are

free
> from foreign soil. Consequently, you must have your car steam- sprayed or
> cleaned thoroughly before shipping.
>
> Do not ship personal belongings in your vehicle.
>
> Any modifications that must be made to a vehicle imported into the United
> States is based on the price paid or the invoice price. Contact your local
> customs office for the current duty rate. A returning U.S. resident (one
> returning from travel, work or study) may apply his or her $400.00 customs
> exemption (as well as the exemptions of accompanying family members)

toward
> the value of the vehicle if it meets the following requirements:
>
> The vehicle accompanies you on your return to the States.
>
> It is imported for personal use.
>
> The vehicle was purchased during your stay outside the United States.
>
> After this exemption has been applied, the next $1,000.00 of the

vehicle's
> value is dutiable at a flat rate of 10% and the remainder is dutiable at

the
> regular rate.
>
> You are entitled to import a foreign-made car if you are:
>
> A U.S. citizen employed abroad, or a government employee returning from
> temporary duty or on voluntary leave. These citizens may import a
> foreign-made car free of duty provided they claim non-resident status,

enter
> the United States for only a short visit and export the vehicle when they
> leave the States.
>
> A civilian or military employee of the U.S government returning to the
> United States at the end of an assignment of more than 140 days may

include
> a conforming vehicle among their duty-free personal and household goods
> provided the auto was purchased abroad and was in the owner's possession
> prior to his departure to the United States. Navy personnel serving a U.S.
> vessel may be entitled to the free entry exemption after an intended
> overseas deployment of at least 120 days.
>
> A vehicle may be imported by a non-resident if the vehicle is for

personal
> use and is imported in conjunction with the owner's arrival. Vehicles
> conforming to these restrictions may remain in the United States
> indefinitely. If the conforming vehicle was imported under duty free
> exemptions, it is dutiable if sold within one year of importation. This

duty
> must be paid before the sale is completed. Non-conforming vehicles may not
> be sold in the United States and must be exported within one year.
>
> A car imported by a non-resident for purposes other than personal, such

as
> racing, repair or as a sample for taking orders, is subject to specific
> customs regulations. Check with your local customs office for guidelines
> pertaining to unusual situations and exceptions.
>
> Federal Tax
>
> Some imported automobiles are subject to the "Gas Guzzler Tax" stipulated
> in section 4064 of the Internal Revenue Code. Liability for the tax is the
> responsibility of the individual importing the vehicle and the tax rate is
> determined by the EPA's fuel economy rating. (This rating may differ from
> the fuel economy rating cited by the manufacturer). Additionally, before
> registering and titling your vehicle, many states require proof that you
> have paid the "Gas Guzzlers Tax" in cases where it is applicable. For
> information on the "Gas Guzzlers Tax" contact:
>
> Internal Revenue Service
>
> Room 5314
>
> CC: DOM : P&SI
>
> 1111 Constitution Avenue N.W.
>
> Washington, D.C. 20224, U.S.A.
>
> Phone: (202) 622-3130
>
> Fax: (202) 622-4524
>
> You may also contact the ITS for information on determining fuel economy
> rates. Ask for section 4064 of the Code, Revenue Procedure 86-9,1986-1
> Cumulative Bulletin 530, Revenue Procedure 87-10,1987-4 Internal Revenue
> Bulletin 29, and Revenue Ruling 86-20,1986-1 C.B. 319.
>
> It should be evident from the foregoing information that importing a
> vehicle is difficult. An individual may not be able to import one if it is
> not in compliance with EPA and DOT requirements, unless a company approved
> by the entities is the importer of record. EPA and DOT should be contacted
> before you attempt to bring your vehicle into the United States.



____________________________________


Thanks for all the advice. My interest is in a pre 1975 diesel. If I do it
it will come from England since I have people who can get me the vehicle and
handle things on that end. My brother-in-law swears he got 26 mpg with his
diesel Land Rover, sorry I can't recall the model but I know it was of
1970's vintage.

This may be more trouble than I want to deal with. I guess I have some
reading to do.

>
>
>



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Old 08-20-2005, 22:02   #9 (permalink)
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>
>
> Thanks for all the advice. My interest is in a pre 1975 diesel. If I do it
> it will come from England since I have people who can get me the vehicle

and
> handle things on that end. My brother-in-law swears he got 26 mpg with his
> diesel Land Rover, sorry I can't recall the model but I know it was of
> 1970's vintage.
>
> This may be more trouble than I want to deal with. I guess I have some
> reading to do.
>

The guy who owns Rocky Mountain Springs in Vancouver, BC is a really
nice and helpful person - he has access to some good vehicles all
legally imported into Canada if I remember correctly.

If you do import a vehicle make sure that you stuff it in a container
with a load of spares as well, you may end up (over time) selling
the spares to fund your purchase of the LR. Doing RORO is a sure
way to have the vehicle stripped of anything that unbolts by the
wharfies.

The upside of importing from the UK is that you can get some ex
NATO vehicles already built with left hand drive - just look at
the ads in the Landrover mags and you'll see plenty of army surplus
vehicles.

One way to clean up the diesel for emissions tests is to fit one of
the dual fuel devices which inject a small amount of LPG into the
inlet manifold - Welshtec Inc. rings a bell. The upside is that you also
get improved MPG.

26mpg would seem achieveable - with an overdrive.


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