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Old 09-26-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
Andrew Cooke
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Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

I am considering purchasing a power upgrade of some sort for my TD5 Disco, I
have heard of Jeremy Fearn and he seems pretty respected. The kit on offer
is an upgraded intercooler plus power chip conversion which ups the bhp to
over 190 from the standard 136. At 1000 is it a good buy or are there other
cheaper options that will do the job?

Andy

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Old 09-26-2005, 15:01   #2 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

so Andrew Cooke was, like...
> I am considering purchasing a power upgrade of some sort for my TD5
> Disco, I have heard of Jeremy Fearn and he seems pretty respected.
> The kit on offer is an upgraded intercooler plus power chip
> conversion which ups the bhp to over 190 from the standard 136. At
> 1000 is it a good buy or are there other cheaper options that will
> do the job?


Just had his chip and intercooler upgrade done on my 300Tdi Disco. Quite a
lot of money, and a modest though useful improvement in power, although less
than I hoped it would be. Best improvement is in towing, where it will now
hold top gear (it's an auto) for much longer. Workmanship is very good, and
a very tidy installation.

He will want to test drive the car afterwards, and you may not like the way
he does it. He certainly won't be getting the keys to any of my vehicles
again.

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Old 09-26-2005, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On 2005-09-26, Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:

> He will want to test drive the car afterwards, and you may not like
> the way he does it. He certainly won't be getting the keys to any
> of my vehicles again.


If what you are concerned about is him putting a lot of wellie in, how
else is he supposed to test a power upgrade? Considering that there's
a new intercooler, new tubing and new pump settings, it's got to be
tested otherwise you might find a tube blowing off while towing a
heavy load up a hill.

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Old 09-26-2005, 17:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade


"Ian Rawlings" <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:slrndjgp6k.7k6.news05@gate-int.tarcus.org.uk...
> On 2005-09-26, Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> He will want to test drive the car afterwards, and you may not like
>> the way he does it. He certainly won't be getting the keys to any
>> of my vehicles again.

>
> If what you are concerned about is him putting a lot of wellie in, how
> else is he supposed to test a power upgrade? Considering that there's
> a new intercooler, new tubing and new pump settings, it's got to be
> tested otherwise you might find a tube blowing off while towing a
> heavy load up a hill.
>


He could put it on a dynamometer to do a proper test. Perhaps that is what
he does. This would indeed seem 'cruel' to the gentler folk among us. :-)

Huw


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Old 09-27-2005, 01:01   #5 (permalink)
Ian Rawlings
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On 2005-09-26, Huw <hedydd> wrote:

> He could put it on a dynamometer to do a proper test. Perhaps that is what
> he does. This would indeed seem 'cruel' to the gentler folk among us. :-)


Could do, but you'd get people moaning about that too, and also bear
in mind that for the product to work, it needs the airflow so you'd
need the truck to be moving. You could try blasting it with fans that
can generate up to 90 MPH winds, but you'd have to match the fan speed
to the vehicle speed, as otherwise at lower speeds you'd be getting
more cooling than you would in real life etc etc etc

Basically just get in it and put the wellie down!

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Old 09-27-2005, 04:01   #6 (permalink)
Huw
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade


"Ian Rawlings" <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:slrndjhqjs.7k6.news05@gate-int.tarcus.org.uk...
> On 2005-09-26, Huw <hedydd> wrote:
>
>> He could put it on a dynamometer to do a proper test. Perhaps that is
>> what
>> he does. This would indeed seem 'cruel' to the gentler folk among us. :-)

>
> Could do, but you'd get people moaning about that too, and also bear
> in mind that for the product to work, it needs the airflow so you'd
> need the truck to be moving.


Does the vehicle fan not work then?




You could try blasting it with fans that
> can generate up to 90 MPH winds, but you'd have to match the fan speed
> to the vehicle speed, as otherwise at lower speeds you'd be getting
> more cooling than you would in real life etc etc etc


I think you misundertand how the intercooler works. It is not dependant on
vehicle speed, especially on a LR which might be towing 4 tons hard up a
long mountain hill in low ratio.


>
> Basically just get in it and put the wellie down!
>


A driver can feel the extra power in this way but he doesn't need to be
rough while doing it and it will not provide an objective measure for
comparison. Not that I am against this, but a thousand quid would indicate a
better measurement. I chipped my own X5 and Range Rover in this way and am
quite satisfied with the extra performance and [surprisingly] economy. Since
I did it myself and it cost less than 400, I don't care that I haven't got
a proper measure of the increased power.

Huw


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Old 09-27-2005, 05:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On 2005-09-27, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> Plenty ways. I think Richard was more concerned about the driving
> technique.


Sounds like "Fearn" is a concatenation of "Fear Nothing"..

> Imagine a sort of hyper Alan Titchmarsh, who obviosuly knows his own
> 'back garden' and insists upon driving the lawnmower at full pelt
> around the thorny rosebed - whilst blindfold - with you strapped to
> the front, naked...


That's the kind of imagery that makes me mess my pants, whether front
or rear I'm not prepared to reveal.


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Old 09-27-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:23:03 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:15:01 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>If what you are concerned about is him putting a lot of wellie in, how
>>else is he supposed to test a power upgrade?

>
>Plenty ways. I think Richard was more concerned about the driving
>technique.
>
>Imagine a sort of hyper Alan Titchmarsh, who obviosuly knows his own
>'back garden' and insists upon driving the lawnmower at full pelt
>around the thorny rosebed - whilst blindfold - with you strapped to
>the front, naked...


Picture would have been better if you had suggested Charlie
Dimmock.......
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:08:11 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>I think you misundertand how the intercooler works. It is not dependant on
>vehicle speed, especially on a LR which might be towing 4 tons hard up a
>long mountain hill in low ratio.


vehicle speed will affect the intercoolers operation.

The point of the intercooler is to cool the air running through it.
This obviously works better when the exterior of the IC is cooler.
This will stay cooler when there is more of a draft over it - such as
the one caused by travelling faster!

I'm not saying that you have to go at 90 to get the best out of it! -
depending on the design and positioning of the IC it probably reaches
a maximum efficiency level at a slower speed than that.

With an intercooled car, you can increase perfomance by fitting a
proper frount mounted IC (so it gets more airflow), or by fitting
stuff like IC misting kits (where water is sprayed over the outside of
the IC to keep it cooler and get rid of the heat better)

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Old 09-27-2005, 10:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Jeremy Fearn Power Upgrade

On or around Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:23:03 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:15:01 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>If what you are concerned about is him putting a lot of wellie in, how
>>else is he supposed to test a power upgrade?

>
>Plenty ways. I think Richard was more concerned about the driving
>technique.
>
>Imagine a sort of hyper Alan Titchmarsh, who obviosuly knows his own
>'back garden' and insists upon driving the lawnmower at full pelt
>around the thorny rosebed - whilst blindfold - with you strapped to
>the front, naked...


If he'd been driving my vehicle like that, with me in it, I'd have been
inclined to demand that he stop pronto, let me drive, then while changing
over from passenger to driver's seat, accidentally lock the cnut out and
drive off.

The above, naturally assumes a factual account of the incident. I have no
reason to disbelieve what I was told, however.


Some years back I was in uni in Aber. A certain gentleman was the tranport
officer for Aber Rag, and I was one of their drivers - they like mature
students as they're old enough to go on the insurance when they're in the
first year, and thus not too busy. I was once driven somewhere by said chap
in one of the transit minibuses, and in my honest opinon, he drove far too
fast, on a single-track winding road. He was also heard to boast of being
able to drive, in a laden minibus, from Aberystwyth to the (Severn) bridge
in 2 hours 5 minutes. I could do the same in 2 and a half hours, and I
wasn't going slowly. Someone mentioned this boast, to which I said that he
was a fecking nutter, OWTTE. This was reported back to him and he took a
dim view; But I stand by it: on the roads he'd have been using, in the
dark, mostly, he was at least some of the time gogin sufficiently fast that
he'd not have been able to stop if there had been something in the road
around one of the many corners; and not everything that blocks the road has
lights on it.

He also called into question my night vision (admittedly not excellent but
adequate) as a result of the fact that I had re-set the headlamp aim on one
of the buses (after no action was forthcoming having made an official
complaint about same) which was producing a shorter beam pattern on main
beam than it should have been on dip. He made the point that it wasn't my
job (true), that it had then had to be taken to the garage (also true) and
that it didn't need adjusting in the first place (definitely false, I know
what headlamp alignment is meant to look like). As a result they lost a
driver.

I wrote 'em a terse letter commenting that I wasn't so irresponsible as to
drive a busload of people around if I knew that my vision wasn't adequate,
never got any reply, though. Man was an arse.

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