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Old 06-24-2005, 00:01   #1 (permalink)
Fanie
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Naff Landrovers

I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton articulated
dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
Deere. Apparently one went up a close to 1:1 grade with a full load that a
landcruiser couldn't get up. (I know I am sure that a landy would have made
it.)

I went around their test track and let me tell you LR have got a thing or
two to learn about the so called "command driving position." Getting back
into my disco felt like dirving a punto after that beast.

Anyway, I am not sure how I can justify it or what I would use it for, but I
want one.

Regards
Stephen


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Old 06-24-2005, 06:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Naff Landrovers

Fanie wrote:

> I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton articulated
> dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
> Deere. Apparently one went up a close to 1:1 grade with a full load that a
> landcruiser couldn't get up. (I know I am sure that a landy would have made
> it.)


101FCs could do 60 degrees (1.7:1) on a dry concrete slope I think - I
don't know if that was loaded or not !

Steve
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Old 06-24-2005, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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"Fanie" <fanie@checkitsystems.com> wrote in message
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>I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton articulated
>dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
>Deere. > Anyway, I am not sure how I can justify it or what I would use it
>for, but I want one.


Easy enough to justify. Get a license to drive it on site and hire to
earthmoving jobs with yourself as driver.

Huw


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Old 06-24-2005, 12:03   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Naff Landrovers

On or around Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:03:58 +0100, Steve Taylor
<steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Fanie wrote:
>
>> I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton articulated
>> dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
>> Deere. Apparently one went up a close to 1:1 grade with a full load that a
>> landcruiser couldn't get up. (I know I am sure that a landy would have made
>> it.)

>
>101FCs could do 60 degrees (1.7:1) on a dry concrete slope I think - I
>don't know if that was loaded or not !
>
>Steve


'ere, now speaking of 101s - a scheme came to me in a flash of insanity or
inspiration this morning.

Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi. Considering
the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?


OK, 's not quite that simple - you'd need some form of mod to the rear
crankshaft in order to drive though the front end of it, and it has to be
possible that the back end of the rear crank would not be strong enough,
although I rather doubt that.

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Old 06-24-2005, 12:03   #5 (permalink)
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:04:26 +0100, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>'ere, now speaking of 101s - a scheme came to me in a flash of insanity or
>inspiration this morning.
>
>Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi. Considering
>the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?
>


BARMAN

Pint of whatever Austin's drinking please.

;-)

Pleasant weekend all.

David
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:03   #6 (permalink)
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Austin Shackles wrote:

>
> Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi. Considering
> the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?
>
>
> OK, 's not quite that simple - you'd need some form of mod to the rear
> crankshaft in order to drive though the front end of it, and it has to be
> possible that the back end of the rear crank would not be strong enough,
> although I rather doubt that.


Why can't you have these bloody silly ideas where we can find a
tapemeasure....

I reckon the crank connections are the same diameter by the way, so some
manner of high torque flexi coupling would be needed.

Where would we put enough rad/intercooler though.....

So many cool projects, so little time (and money)

Steve
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Old 06-24-2005, 13:01   #7 (permalink)
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I dare say, but none of your modern stuff a Scammel explorer would make my
landie seem comfortable in comparison :)


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"Fanie" <fanie@checkitsystems.com> wrote in message
news:ssGdnaOZ0NhROCbfRVn-vw@is.co.za...
> I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton articulated
> dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
> Deere. Apparently one went up a close to 1:1 grade with a full load that a
> landcruiser couldn't get up. (I know I am sure that a landy would have

made
> it.)
>
> I went around their test track and let me tell you LR have got a thing or
> two to learn about the so called "command driving position." Getting back
> into my disco felt like dirving a punto after that beast.
>
> Anyway, I am not sure how I can justify it or what I would use it for, but

I
> want one.
>
> Regards
> Stephen
>
>



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Old 06-24-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@davidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:04:26 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>>'ere, now speaking of 101s - a scheme came to me in a flash of insanity or
>>inspiration this morning.
>>
>>Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi.
>>Considering
>>the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?
>>

>
> BARMAN
>
> Pint of whatever Austin's drinking please.
>
> ;-)


If only I hadn't packed in smoking 18 months ago, I could have had a smoke
of whatever he fills his baccy tin with, as well as that pint!! :-))
Reckon it would work better as 2 V8's bolted together to make a V16,
though! And I bet you it would sound a lot nicer than a couple of diesels,
eh? Oh, and the load bay could be filled with 120ltr lpg tanks to feed it.
Practical...? No! Fun...? Yep!
Badger.


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Old 06-24-2005, 13:01   #9 (permalink)
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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:03:58 +0100, Steve Taylor
> <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Fanie wrote:
>>
>>> I was visiting Bell equipment yesterday. These guys make 50ton
>>> articulated
>>> dump trucks amongst others, that are badged as either Hitachi, Bell or
>>> Deere. Apparently one went up a close to 1:1 grade with a full load that
>>> a
>>> landcruiser couldn't get up. (I know I am sure that a landy would have
>>> made
>>> it.)

>>
>>101FCs could do 60 degrees (1.7:1) on a dry concrete slope I think - I
>>don't know if that was loaded or not !
>>
>>Steve

>
> 'ere, now speaking of 101s - a scheme came to me in a flash of insanity or
> inspiration this morning.
>
> Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi.
> Considering
> the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?
>
>
> OK, 's not quite that simple - you'd need some form of mod to the rear
> crankshaft in order to drive though the front end of it, and it has to be
> possible that the back end of the rear crank would not be strong enough,
> although I rather doubt that.


Seen this done in tractor pulling circles, with Jag V12's and I6's, no
reason why it couldn't be done with any other engine, I shouldn't imagine,
unless there is an inherent known crank weakness?? The more cylinders each
engine has, the smoother its own power delivery with less torque pulsing,
therefore the easier the stress can be coped with by the rear crank.
Hmmmm... V24, 10.6ltr....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............................
Badger.


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Old 06-24-2005, 13:02   #10 (permalink)
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:06:40 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@davidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:i5hob19116oo70a36nnsa1fl2q5eb7u58l@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:04:26 +0100, Austin Shackles
>> <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>>
>>>'ere, now speaking of 101s - a scheme came to me in a flash of insanity or
>>>inspiration this morning.
>>>
>>>Bolt 2 TDi engines together, you get a 5-litre straight-8 TDi.
>>>Considering
>>>the amount of space in front of the rad in the 101, d'you reckon it'd fit?
>>>

>>
>> BARMAN
>>
>> Pint of whatever Austin's drinking please.
>>
>> ;-)

>
>If only I hadn't packed in smoking 18 months ago, I could have had a smoke
>of whatever he fills his baccy tin with, as well as that pint!! :-))
> Reckon it would work better as 2 V8's bolted together to make a V16,
>though! And I bet you it would sound a lot nicer than a couple of diesels,
>eh? Oh, and the load bay could be filled with 120ltr lpg tanks to feed it.
>Practical...? No! Fun...? Yep!
>Badger.
>


Sounds good to me, I'll have 2 please!


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