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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #1 (permalink)
Colonel Tupperware
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NATO tow hook / pintle

Does anyone know the bolt size required to fit a NATO hook, and what
the dimensions are for the mounting holes?
If they do, could they please tell me?

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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

On or around Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:12:29 +0000, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:

>Does anyone know the bolt size required to fit a NATO hook, and what
>the dimensions are for the mounting holes?
>If they do, could they please tell me?


half-inch bolts (you can use 12mm, they're slightly loose).

hole spacing as per the hitch :-) - find a 90/110 and measure the hole
pattern on the crossmember, is the easiest. They're something slightly odd,
ISTR.

angabout, what are you trying to fit it to?


on a series/90/110, the bolts need to be long enough to go through the
hitch, the crossmember and a fat washer or reinforcing plate on the other
side. 5 or 6 inch, I think.


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #3 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:14:18 +0000, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>On or around Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:12:29 +0000, Colonel Tupperware
><big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Does anyone know the bolt size required to fit a NATO hook, and what
>>the dimensions are for the mounting holes?
>>If they do, could they please tell me?

>
>half-inch bolts (you can use 12mm, they're slightly loose).
>

So. M12, but how long?

>hole spacing as per the hitch :-) - find a 90/110 and measure the hole
>pattern on the crossmember, is the easiest. They're something slightly odd,
>ISTR.


Not got the hitch yet, buying it from the same bloke as the trailer
I'm picking up on Sunday.

>
>angabout, what are you trying to fit it to?
>

Disco towing plate.

>
>on a series/90/110, the bolts need to be long enough to go through the
>hitch, the crossmember and a fat washer or reinforcing plate on the other
>side. 5 or 6 inch, I think.


I've got 2 types of Ball and Pin tow hooks, but the consensus at work
is that the NATO ring wont fit in a 3.5tonne Dixon Bate dual pin /
ball hitch, or my other Sealey type hitch.

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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #4 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

> I've got 2 types of Ball and Pin tow hooks, but the consensus at work
> is that the NATO ring wont fit in a 3.5tonne Dixon Bate dual pin /
> ball hitch, or my other Sealey type hitch.


Section diameter of the 3 inch NATO eye is nominally 41.2 mm
(http://www.nato.int/docu/stanag/4101/sta4101e.pdf)

Most smaller Dixon-Bate jaws (including the one you describe)accept a
maximum 28.6 mm diameter.
(http://www.dixonbate.co.uk/html/universal_coupling.htm)

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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #5 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

>>>Does anyone know the bolt size required to fit a NATO hook, and what
>>>the dimensions are for the mounting holes?


88 x 44.5 mm for the Land-Rover sized version.
(http://www.dixonbate.co.uk/html/pintles.htm)

>>angabout, what are you trying to fit it to?


> Disco towing plate.


Probably already drilled to accept this NATO hook with M12 or 1/2 inch
bolts.

Please be careful about bolt/nut strength/backing plates/washers even if
you are just towing a small trailer. If you have anything else in mind
be extremely careful!

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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #6 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

On or around Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:39:13 +0000, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:

>I've got 2 types of Ball and Pin tow hooks, but the consensus at work
>is that the NATO ring wont fit in a 3.5tonne Dixon Bate dual pin /
>ball hitch, or my other Sealey type hitch.


no, It won't, the nato ring is larger. What trailer? If it's a 4-wheeler,
then you'll need a special thing to fit the DB sliding hitch rails, in order
to get the hitch at the right height; the standard height is about in line
with the disco bumper.

A sankey or similar will slope downwards, if you mount it lower.

Just been and measured it - the rectangle looks to be about 86x43mm. If
you're looking at bolting to a standard DB hitch-mounting plate then that's
12mm thick, and the flanges on the nato hitch are something like about 16mm,
so your bolts need to be about 45 or 50mm, I should think.

If you want details of the adapter I made for the DB hitch rails, then these
can be supplied. In fact, if anyone does...


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #7 (permalink)
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Re: NATO tow hook / pintle

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:40:24 +0000, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>On or around Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:39:13 +0000, Colonel Tupperware
><big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>I've got 2 types of Ball and Pin tow hooks, but the consensus at work
>>is that the NATO ring wont fit in a 3.5tonne Dixon Bate dual pin /
>>ball hitch, or my other Sealey type hitch.

>
>no, It won't, the nato ring is larger. What trailer? If it's a 4-wheeler,
>then you'll need a special thing to fit the DB sliding hitch rails, in order
>to get the hitch at the right height; the standard height is about in line
>with the disco bumper.
>
>A sankey or similar will slope downwards, if you mount it lower.
>
>Just been and measured it - the rectangle looks to be about 86x43mm. If
>you're looking at bolting to a standard DB hitch-mounting plate then that's
>12mm thick, and the flanges on the nato hitch are something like about 16mm,
>so your bolts need to be about 45 or 50mm, I should think.
>
>If you want details of the adapter I made for the DB hitch rails, then these
>can be supplied. In fact, if anyone does...


Sorted. Fitted a NATO hool (ex. Bedford 4 Tonner) straight on to the
Disco's plate.
The Trailer, although described as a Sankey is actually a Reynolds
Boughton 1 tonne Air Portable with 2 height suspension. On the high
setting it looks like a ski jump!
Pulled it back from Aylesbury to Bedford without too much hassle. NOw
to set about giving it a good service and converting it to how I want
it.

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