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Old 03-30-2005, 06:01   #1 (permalink)
dave
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New Defender rumours

I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the proposed
new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of what
wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
single and crew cab pickup versions.
Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.

I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate hearing
from anyone in the know.

My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.


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Old 03-30-2005, 09:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:38:16 GMT, "dave"
<adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote:

>I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the proposed
>new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of what
>wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
>single and crew cab pickup versions.
>Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
>
>I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
>probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate hearing
>from anyone in the know.
>
>My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.
>


I expect it'll use the same platform as the disco3 but beyond that I
don't know.
I'd personally rather see them produce a mix of the current defender
and the current santana, shiny shiny.


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Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

It will probably be
Comfortable.
Practical.
Economical
Less likely to rust.
Appeal to female drivers.
Easy to get into
Be better off road, but only if you know where the button is to do that.
Made Cheaper.
Cost More
Built somewhere like a Craplakistan state

Regards JJ


"dave" <adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote in message
news:cZx2e.18026$C7.5099@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the
>proposed
> new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of
> what
> wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
> single and crew cab pickup versions.
> Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
>
> I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
> probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate
> hearing
> from anyone in the know.
>
> My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.
>
>



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Old 03-30-2005, 11:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours


"dave" <adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote in message
news:cZx2e.18026$C7.5099@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the

proposed
> new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of

what
> wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
> single and crew cab pickup versions.
> Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
>
> I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
> probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate

hearing
> from anyone in the know.
>
> My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.


According to LRO last month (underground Disco on cover) a clay mock up
of said new Defender is taking shape at Gaydon.

Dom J



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Old 03-30-2005, 13:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

The greatest fear will be something of a monocoque, Defender look-alike.
Will be the end of an era and the end of the real LR. IMHO
If they go that way it will probably be the last model built.
Maybe they do not care. There is enough profit in new Rangies and
Discos..
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Old 03-30-2005, 13:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

Quote from May issue LRO,
He (Matthew Taylor, LR managing director) admitted that work on a
Defender replacement, based on the same platform as Discovery 3 and Range
Rover Sport, had been shelved. The company's highest priority at the moment
is the second generation Freelander, due in the second half of 2006.
That means the replacemant Defender project won't come out of mothballs
until some time next year.............even if a new odel is launched it is
expected that the old model will continue in production abroad for many
years to come..........

Read into that what you will !!

Richard



"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:38:16 GMT, "dave"
> <adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the
>>proposed
>>new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of
>>what
>>wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
>>single and crew cab pickup versions.
>>Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
>>
>>I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
>>probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate
>>hearing
>>from anyone in the know.
>>
>>My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.
>>

>
> I expect it'll use the same platform as the disco3 but beyond that I
> don't know.
> I'd personally rather see them produce a mix of the current defender
> and the current santana, shiny shiny.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
> --
> _________________________________________
> 1984 110 CSW 2.5(na)D
> (3,000 rivets flying in close formation)
> www.4x4info.info
> www.mvp-fine-art.co.uk
> www.markvarleyphoto.co.uk
> _________________________________________
>
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Old 03-30-2005, 18:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:49:18 GMT, "Richard" <NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>Quote from May issue LRO,
> He (Matthew Taylor, LR managing director) admitted that work on a
>Defender replacement, based on the same platform as Discovery 3 and Range
>Rover Sport, had been shelved. The company's highest priority at the moment
>is the second generation Freelander, due in the second half of 2006.
> That means the replacemant Defender project won't come out of mothballs
>until some time next year.............even if a new odel is launched it is
>expected that the old model will continue in production abroad for many
>years to come..........
>
>Read into that what you will !!
>
>Richard


The ladder chassis lives!
I wonder if they'll start rebadging santanas? hehehe


Regards.
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Old 03-30-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours


"Dom J" wrote after
>
> "dave" wrote in message
>> I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the

> proposed
>> new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of

> what
>> wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
>> single and crew cab pickup versions.
>> Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
>>
>> I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
>> probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate

> hearing
>> from anyone in the know.
>>
>> My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.

>
> According to LRO last month (underground Disco on cover) a clay mock up
> of said new Defender is taking shape at Gaydon.
>


You have to be careful, there is a rumour that Ford are going to produce a
small cheap Defender ragtop look-alike using an existing floor pan which
will compete with the Suzy Justy etc. A fun style statement recreational
vehicle. Styling exercises have been seen.

The new Defender itself is supposed to be on the T5 chassis of the new Disco
and RR Sport but it's an off and on project as Ford have other priorities. I
understand they are having problems keeping production costs down,
considering all the body permutations available now which they want to
continue. As it's sold mostly as a business tool they do need these
different types.

Another problem for them is the British Army which seems to be ordering
other vehicles.

Personally I think the production will have to go abroad, somewhere cheaper,
maybe China or even Malaysia.

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Old 03-31-2005, 01:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: New Defender rumours

In message <424ae8e0$0$22419$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>
"JJ" <jj@genie.co.uk> wrote:

> It will probably be
> Comfortable.
> Practical.
> Economical
> Less likely to rust.
> Appeal to female drivers.
> Easy to get into
> Be better off road, but only if you know where the button is to do that.
> Made Cheaper.
> Cost More
> Built somewhere like a Craplakistan state
>
> Regards JJ
>


i.e Not a Defender and a waste of space :-(

Richard

>
> "dave" <adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote in message
> news:cZx2e.18026$C7.5099@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the
> >proposed
> > new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of
> > what
> > wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
> > single and crew cab pickup versions.
> > Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
> >
> > I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
> > probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate
> > hearing
> > from anyone in the know.
> >
> > My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.
> >
> >

>
>


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Old 03-31-2005, 01:02   #10 (permalink)
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"Richard" <NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote:

> Quote from May issue LRO,
> He (Matthew Taylor, LR managing director) admitted that work on a
> Defender replacement, based on the same platform as Discovery 3 and Range
> Rover Sport, had been shelved. The company's highest priority at the moment
> is the second generation Freelander, due in the second half of 2006.
> That means the replacemant Defender project won't come out of mothballs
> until some time next year.............even if a new odel is launched it is
> expected that the old model will continue in production abroad for many
> years to come..........
>
> Read into that what you will !!
>
> Richard
>
>


Lets hope the above is true! I have no hope that current
designers have any idea in what ways Defenders are used,
so the longer the real ones stay in production the better!

Richard

>
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> news:22il41l9rsuc565reh1d2gclidp93va9nl@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:38:16 GMT, "dave"
> > <adblackley@bipond.deletefilter.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I was just wondering if anyone here has heard any rumours about the
> >>proposed
> >>new defender. Particularly I'm interested if there has been any talk of
> >>what
> >>wheel bases it might be produced in, and whether it will be available in
> >>single and crew cab pickup versions.
> >>Having said that, I'm interested in any information whatsoever.
> >>
> >>I guess with the shipping date constantly slipping backwards, that I'm
> >>probably asking this question way too soon, but I would appreciate
> >>hearing
> >>from anyone in the know.
> >>
> >>My apologies if the topic has been covered here recently.
> >>

> >
> > I expect it'll use the same platform as the disco3 but beyond that I
> > don't know.
> > I'd personally rather see them produce a mix of the current defender
> > and the current santana, shiny shiny.
> >
> >
> > Regards.
> > Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
> > --
> > _________________________________________
> > 1984 110 CSW 2.5(na)D
> > (3,000 rivets flying in close formation)
> > www.4x4info.info
> > www.mvp-fine-art.co.uk
> > www.markvarleyphoto.co.uk
> > _________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
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