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Old 11-08-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
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new tyres strange handling

just put two new tyres on the back of my disco, it now has a strange feel to
the road holding. coming up the M1 Saturday it felt as if the steering had a
lot of play in it, the disco was weaving slightly certainly did not feel
right so I pulled on to hard shoulder checked the steering and it felt fine
carried on driving sedately and it was ok. since then it seems that at
around 50 mph if you veer side to side slightly its as if the back end is
moving slightly sort of like the roll is worse, certainly a strange feeling.
the old tyres on the front are Goodyear and the new on the back are marshals
(the old were Goodyear and it drove fine), all are inflated to the manuals
figures, 26 psi front 34 psi back. any suggestions? I think at the weekend I
will put the new on the front and see if its any better.

Paul


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Old 11-08-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
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In message <3tc1tjFs5qmtU1@individual.net>, Paul
<paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> writes
>just put two new tyres on the back of my disco, it now has a strange feel to
>the road holding. coming up the M1 Saturday it felt as if the steering had a
>lot of play in it, the disco was weaving slightly certainly did not feel
>right so I pulled on to hard shoulder checked the steering and it felt fine
>carried on driving sedately and it was ok. since then it seems that at
>around 50 mph if you veer side to side slightly its as if the back end is
>moving slightly sort of like the roll is worse, certainly a strange feeling.
>the old tyres on the front are Goodyear and the new on the back are marshals
>(the old were Goodyear and it drove fine), all are inflated to the manuals
>figures, 26 psi front 34 psi back. any suggestions? I think at the weekend I
>will put the new on the front and see if its any better.
>
>Paul




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Old 11-08-2005, 11:01   #3 (permalink)
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"Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3tc1tjFs5qmtU1@individual.net...
> just put two new tyres on the back of my disco, it now has a strange feel
> to the road holding. coming up the M1 Saturday it felt as if the steering
> had a lot of play in it, the disco was weaving slightly certainly did not
> feel right so I pulled on to hard shoulder checked the steering and it
> felt fine carried on driving sedately and it was ok. since then it seems
> that at around 50 mph if you veer side to side slightly its as if the back
> end is moving slightly sort of like the roll is worse, certainly a strange
> feeling. the old tyres on the front are Goodyear and the new on the back
> are marshals (the old were Goodyear and it drove fine), all are inflated
> to the manuals figures, 26 psi front 34 psi back. any suggestions? I think
> at the weekend I will put the new on the front and see if its any better.
>
> Paul
>

I put 4 new tyres on my Disco, Goodyear Wranglers, drove away from the
garage in my usual way only to feel myself drifting all over the road.
Quickly slowed down and pottered home after checking that the tyre pressures
were OK. It went away after a couple of hundred miles. I put it down to the
tyres runnuing in and wearing off the little spikes.

Peter.


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Old 11-08-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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"Pete S" <trap@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:4370f3ad$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:3tc1tjFs5qmtU1@individual.net...
>> just put two new tyres on the back of my disco, it now has a strange feel
>> to the road holding. coming up the M1 Saturday it felt as if the steering
>> had a lot of play in it, the disco was weaving slightly certainly did not
>> feel right so I pulled on to hard shoulder checked the steering and it
>> felt fine carried on driving sedately and it was ok. since then it seems
>> that at around 50 mph if you veer side to side slightly its as if the
>> back end is moving slightly sort of like the roll is worse, certainly a
>> strange feeling. the old tyres on the front are Goodyear and the new on
>> the back are marshals (the old were Goodyear and it drove fine), all are
>> inflated to the manuals figures, 26 psi front 34 psi back. any
>> suggestions? I think at the weekend I will put the new on the front and
>> see if its any better.
>>
>> Paul
>>

> I put 4 new tyres on my Disco, Goodyear Wranglers, drove away from the
> garage in my usual way only to feel myself drifting all over the road.
> Quickly slowed down and pottered home after checking that the tyre
> pressures were OK. It went away after a couple of hundred miles. I put it
> down to the tyres runnuing in and wearing off the little spikes.
>
> Peter.
>


hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of weeks
and see how it goes


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Old 11-08-2005, 15:01   #5 (permalink)
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"Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3tcc21FrljqbU1@individual.net...
>
> "Pete S" <trap@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:4370f3ad$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >
> > "Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:3tc1tjFs5qmtU1@individual.net...
> >> just put two new tyres on the back of my disco, it now has a strange

feel
> >> to the road holding. coming up the M1 Saturday it felt as if the

steering
> >> had a lot of play in it, the disco was weaving slightly certainly did

not
> >> feel right so I pulled on to hard shoulder checked the steering and it
> >> felt fine carried on driving sedately and it was ok. since then it

seems
> >> that at around 50 mph if you veer side to side slightly its as if the
> >> back end is moving slightly sort of like the roll is worse, certainly a
> >> strange feeling. the old tyres on the front are Goodyear and the new on
> >> the back are marshals (the old were Goodyear and it drove fine), all

are
> >> inflated to the manuals figures, 26 psi front 34 psi back. any
> >> suggestions? I think at the weekend I will put the new on the front and
> >> see if its any better.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>

> > I put 4 new tyres on my Disco, Goodyear Wranglers, drove away from the
> > garage in my usual way only to feel myself drifting all over the road.
> > Quickly slowed down and pottered home after checking that the tyre
> > pressures were OK. It went away after a couple of hundred miles. I put

it
> > down to the tyres runnuing in and wearing off the little spikes.
> >
> > Peter.
> >

>
> hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of weeks
> and see how it goes
>
>


if they are not balanced properly, the tyres can set up vibrations at
particular speeds which can cause all manner of wierd handling. the place
near me charges $5 per tyre (aussie dollars) to balance if you bring the
tyre in already off the car, so i can't imagine it being much more wherever
you are. Worth a try.

Sam.


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Old 11-09-2005, 03:01   #6 (permalink)
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On or around Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:28 -0000, "Paul"
<paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>


>
>hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of weeks
>and see how it goes


I've an idea that brand-new tyres still have slippery stuff on 'em sometimes
from the moulding process, take a few miles to wear off.



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Old 11-09-2005, 04:01   #7 (permalink)
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Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:28 -0000, "Paul"
> <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>

>
>>
>>hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of weeks
>>and see how it goes

>
> I've an idea that brand-new tyres still have slippery stuff on 'em
> sometimes from the moulding process, take a few miles to wear off.
>
>
>


Definitely. When you get new tyres on a motorbike they are very slippery
for the first few (tens of) miles. Have to go very carefully round
corners, and 'scrub them in' by weaving bizarrely at low speed to get the
slippery stuff off of the edges of the tyres. It is the same with car
tyres, but you don't have to do the weaving thing because the profile is
flat to the road, rather than curved.

If that made sense.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:54:42 GMT, Ray <rayj@tau-re.org> wrote:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> On or around Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:28 -0000, "Paul"
>> <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>

>>
>>>
>>>hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of weeks
>>>and see how it goes

>>
>> I've an idea that brand-new tyres still have slippery stuff on 'em
>> sometimes from the moulding process, take a few miles to wear off.
>>
>>
>>

>
>Definitely. When you get new tyres on a motorbike they are very slippery
>for the first few (tens of) miles. Have to go very carefully round
>corners, and 'scrub them in' by weaving bizarrely at low speed to get the
>slippery stuff off of the edges of the tyres. It is the same with car
>tyres, but you don't have to do the weaving thing because the profile is
>flat to the road, rather than curved.
>
>If that made sense.


I thought that might be the case when I put some new rear tyres on my
jaguar, however after a couple of thourand miles it still wants to put
the back-end out far more readily than I'd like, fitted dunlops in
replacement of near-bald pirellis (on it when i got it).
It has kumho's on the front and the front end grips like its velcro.

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Old 11-09-2005, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
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Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
> On or around Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:28 -0000, "Paul"
> <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>

>
>>
>> hopefully that's what my problem is, think I'll leave it a couple of
>> weeks and see how it goes

>
> I've an idea that brand-new tyres still have slippery stuff on 'em
> sometimes from the moulding process, take a few miles to wear off.


My new BFG AT's certainly felt 'iffy' for the first hundred miles, maybe
more.

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