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Old 01-07-2006, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
Derek
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Not a J**p

We have been having a giggle at the antics of J**p drivers of late so when I
saw this video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=land+rover
it reminded me of that other post of Austins
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1124/
ouch! and a demonstration of why rollbars are such a good idea on trials
Derek


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Old 01-07-2006, 08:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Not a J**p

lesson of the day
Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!


"Derek" <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> We have been having a giggle at the antics of J**p drivers of late so when

I
> saw this video
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=land+rover
> it reminded me of that other post of Austins
> http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1124/
> ouch! and a demonstration of why rollbars are such a good idea on trials
> Derek
>
>



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Old 01-07-2006, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Not a J**p



Mark Solesbury wrote:
>
> lesson of the day
> Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!
>

The worst was...applying the brakes!!
If he/she had just released them in time....
Kind regards,
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Not a J**p

Mark Solesbury came up with the following;:
> lesson of the day
> Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!


More like ... If you're using a spotter, follow their uinstructions ...

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Old 01-07-2006, 17:01   #5 (permalink)
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:05:48 -0000, "Mark Solesbury"
<msolesbury@NOSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote:

>lesson of the day
>Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!


Lesson no.2

Please ensure your spare wheel is secured....

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Old 01-08-2006, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Not a J**p

On or around Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:47:27 GMT, "Derek"
<del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>We have been having a giggle at the antics of J**p drivers of late so when I
>saw this video
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=land+rover
>it reminded me of that other post of Austins


actually, it's more "how not to fail a hillclimb". it's the backing down
where he got it wrong - could be he braked - front wheels are light and lose
grip, resulting in it going sideways.

mind, it looks like it survived fairly intact.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:01   #7 (permalink)
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On or around Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:42:58 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Mark Solesbury came up with the following;:
>> lesson of the day
>> Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!

>
>More like ... If you're using a spotter, follow their uinstructions ...


ah, that was the jeep one. The landy bloke braked when trying to back down
a hill and then failed to realise that he'd lost steering until too late.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Not a J**p

On or around Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:08:20 +0000, Alex
<nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:05:48 -0000, "Mark Solesbury"
><msolesbury@NOSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>lesson of the day
>>Engage Reverse and DONT STEER!

>
>Lesson no.2
>
>Please ensure your spare wheel is secured....


yes, I noticed that.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:47:27 GMT, "Derek"
> <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>We have been having a giggle at the antics of J**p drivers of late so when
>>I
>>saw this video
>>http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=land+rover
>>it reminded me of that other post of Austins

>
> actually, it's more "how not to fail a hillclimb". it's the backing down
> where he got it wrong - could be he braked - front wheels are light and
> lose
> grip, resulting in it going sideways.
>
> mind, it looks like it survived fairly intact.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.


I've looked at it a few times there appears to be a section missing after he
stalls the engine (10secs) when it resumes he's already sliding with the
brakes locked + the backend coming round having lost it, difficult to say
whether it went sliding with the brakes locked on the restart attempt or he
broke adhesion trying to climb the last bit , paniced and locked up still
glad it wasnt me I've never liked going down backwards
Derek


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Old 01-09-2006, 00:01   #10 (permalink)
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On or around Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:50:14 GMT, "Derek"
<del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>news:6182s19rf16qq5q32e1a1ne1mnvrb78rm9@4ax.com...
>> On or around Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:47:27 GMT, "Derek"
>> <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>We have been having a giggle at the antics of J**p drivers of late so when
>>>I
>>>saw this video
>>>http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=land+rover
>>>it reminded me of that other post of Austins

>>
>> actually, it's more "how not to fail a hillclimb". it's the backing down
>> where he got it wrong - could be he braked - front wheels are light and
>> lose
>> grip, resulting in it going sideways.
>>
>> mind, it looks like it survived fairly intact.
>> --
>> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
>> Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
>> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

>
>I've looked at it a few times there appears to be a section missing after he
>stalls the engine (10secs) when it resumes he's already sliding with the
>brakes locked + the backend coming round having lost it, difficult to say
>whether it went sliding with the brakes locked on the restart attempt or he
>broke adhesion trying to climb the last bit , paniced and locked up still
>glad it wasnt me I've never liked going down backwards


can be exciting, yes. 's one of those things you have to know about though.
Locked front wheels in reverse will overtake the back ones just like a
handbrake turn only the other way round.

I believe the official technique if you stall the engine is to put it in
reverse, clutch up, then start the engine with it in gear. If it's not too
steep and there's enough grip, trundle slowly backwards, keeping it
straight. If it starts to slide, then that means you've lost rear grip[1],
and sometimes you have to apply some throttle to speed the wheels up a bit.

[1] unless you braked.
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