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Old 10-31-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
ray newport
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Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
With a 1998 Disco.
I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
weight allowance) on the roof.
What do you think?

TIA ray


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Old 10-31-2005, 08:01   #2 (permalink)
Jon
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

The next time your tired and wet, try lifting the spare off the roof
and then putting the flat one back up there...

Unless you're The Hulk you'll soon realise the roof is not the best
place!!


On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:08 -0000, "ray newport"
<ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> wrote:

>I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
>With a 1998 Disco.
>I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
>and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
>the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
>packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
>keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
>weight allowance) on the roof.
> What do you think?
>
>TIA ray
>


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Old 10-31-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
Lee_D
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

During stardate Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:08 -0000, "ray newport"
<ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> uttered the imortal words:

>I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
>With a 1998 Disco.
>I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
>and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
>the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
>packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
>keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
>weight allowance) on the roof.
> What do you think?
>
>TIA ray
>


It's alot simpler to fit a new back door than a roof ;0)

I'd leave it where it is. There is a fair bit of weight in that one
lump. I am personally much more comfortable with such weights as low
down as feasible , escpecially if off roading as Centre of gravity
could make the difference between life and death.

I've had this dilema with my 101 But mounted it infront of the grill
but a 101 is a different Kettle of fish and the radiator is fixed alot
further back from the grill than on a Disco.

I would howeve be a little more comfortable with storing just a tyre
on the roof rack and this may save the day if you're accomplished with
beating the living daylights out of bit of rubber.

Lee D
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
Pantelis Giamarellos
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

Ray Hi,

if you are travelling with just a co-driver then it would maybe be best to
remove the rear seats, free up a lot of space and fit the spare tyre inside
the car.
The rear door can take a LOT of abuse with the spare wheel fitted to it.

Fitting the spare on the roof on the other hand will put a lot of straing on
the roof rack and its points of contact on the roof.
It will also increase the position of your vehicle's center of gravity and
make it more unstable.

Also, as already quoted, it is a real pain in the proverbial to use it if
you have to lower it down and then lift the damaged wheel it will replace up
on the roof.

Take care
Pantelis

"ray newport" <ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dk57fk$k8d$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
> With a 1998 Disco.
> I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
> and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
> the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
> packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
> keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
> weight allowance) on the roof.
> What do you think?
>
> TIA ray
>
>



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Old 10-31-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

In message <9jecm1h70ioe64dsdkvjk3n1cu3ic6dhj0@4ax.com>
Lee_D <leeNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:

> During stardate Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:08 -0000, "ray newport"
> <ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> uttered the imortal words:
>
> >I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
> >With a 1998 Disco.
> >I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
> >and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
> >the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
> >packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
> >keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
> >weight allowance) on the roof.
> > What do you think?
> >
> >TIA ray
> >

>
> It's alot simpler to fit a new back door than a roof ;0)
>
> I'd leave it where it is. There is a fair bit of weight in that one
> lump. I am personally much more comfortable with such weights as low
> down as feasible , escpecially if off roading as Centre of gravity
> could make the difference between life and death.


Also, a spare on the roof represents a fair chunk of the max load allowed
on a roof rack - which is not as much as you may think (havn't got the
figure to hand ineviatabely).

>
> I've had this dilema with my 101 But mounted it infront of the grill
> but a 101 is a different Kettle of fish and the radiator is fixed alot
> further back from the grill than on a Disco.
>
> I would howeve be a little more comfortable with storing just a tyre
> on the roof rack and this may save the day if you're accomplished with
> beating the living daylights out of bit of rubber.


A 101 and a hi-lift lack makes a very good (if somewhat dangerous) bead
breaker.

>
> Lee D


Richard


> --
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> - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
>
> www.lrproject.com
> '76 101 Camper
> '64 88" IIa V8 Auto
> '97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
> '01 Laguna


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Old 10-31-2005, 12:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

>
>Also, a spare on the roof represents a fair chunk of the max load allowed
>on a roof rack - which is not as much as you may think (havn't got the
>figure to hand ineviatabely).
>


50kg IIRC

Not very much really.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
EMB
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

ray newport wrote:
> I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
> With a 1998 Disco.
> I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
> and putting it on a roof rack,

If it's a long, serious overland trip you'll prolly want 2 spares!


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Old 10-31-2005, 14:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:42:32 +0000, Lee_D
<leeNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:

>I'd leave it where it is. There is a fair bit of weight in that one
>lump. I am personally much more comfortable with such weights as low
>down as feasible , escpecially if off roading as Centre of gravity
>could make the difference between life and death.
>
>I've had this dilema with my 101 But mounted it infront of the grill
>but a 101 is a different Kettle of fish and the radiator is fixed alot
>further back from the grill than on a Disco.
>
>I would howeve be a little more comfortable with storing just a tyre
>on the roof rack and this may save the day if you're accomplished with
>beating the living daylights out of bit of rubber.


How much does a 101 wheel with tyre weigh?

Just after reading this thread i watched the eastnor video off
Martyn's site and noticed that he has a storage box on the roof of
grumble.

Do you notice this affecting the truck Martyn? Or do you only keep
light stuff in it?

Has anybody spoken to the owners of Dutch Cheddar
(http://www.101fc.nl/). Does their roof extension do much to the
weight distribution?

It is very tempting to put my spare on the roof (and rig up some sort
of lifting mechanism).
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Old 10-31-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
Larry
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

There is a knack which unfortunately I did not know the first time I tried
this, right now I am thinking of moving it down to the bonnet.


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Larry
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"Jon" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:8kecm1te56vpvlovoq43a1e41f06i3n5ms@4ax.com...
> The next time your tired and wet, try lifting the spare off the roof
> and then putting the flat one back up there...
>
> Unless you're The Hulk you'll soon realise the roof is not the best
> place!!
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:08 -0000, "ray newport"
> <ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> wrote:
>



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Old 10-31-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
Larry
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Re: Off-roading opinions wanted. Put Tyre on roof?

Ok the trick is to lift it onto the bonnet first, and then stand on the
bonnet to load it on the roof,


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Larry
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"Pantelis Giamarellos" <pantg@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ray Hi,
>
> if you are travelling with just a co-driver then it would maybe be best to
> remove the rear seats, free up a lot of space and fit the spare tyre

inside
> the car.
> The rear door can take a LOT of abuse with the spare wheel fitted to it.
>
> Fitting the spare on the roof on the other hand will put a lot of straing

on
> the roof rack and its points of contact on the roof.
> It will also increase the position of your vehicle's center of gravity and
> make it more unstable.
>
> Also, as already quoted, it is a real pain in the proverbial to use it if
> you have to lower it down and then lift the damaged wheel it will replace

up
> on the roof.
>
> Take care
> Pantelis
>
> "ray newport" <ray@COUGHlakesabout.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dk57fk$k8d$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > I'm going on a long overland trip with a lot of off-road.
> > With a 1998 Disco.
> > I've been thinking of taking the spare wheel off the back,
> > and putting it on a roof rack, to reduce the liklihood of
> > the back door shaking to bits. But now I'm considering
> > packing the rest of our gear, it would be kind of nice to
> > keep the wheel on the back, to give more space (and
> > weight allowance) on the roof.
> > What do you think?
> >
> > TIA ray
> >
> >

>
>



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