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Old 07-21-2005, 02:02   #1 (permalink)
Mark Solesbury
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OT - 12v Fridges

Hello all,

OT, but i thought that someone in here MUST know!

I am going camping for the weeked, and want to put a 12v fridge in my car.

If i connect it up, should i connect it to an ingnition feed so that its not
on all the while, or should i wire it so it IS on all the while and let the
thermostat in the fridge do its work.,



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Old 07-21-2005, 03:02   #2 (permalink)
Paul - xxx
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Mark Solesbury came up with the following;:
> Hello all,
>
> OT, but i thought that someone in here MUST know!
>
> I am going camping for the weeked, and want to put a 12v fridge in my car.
>
> If i connect it up, should i connect it to an ingnition feed so that its
> not on all the while, or should i wire it so it IS on all the while and
> let the thermostat in the fridge do its work.,


I'd give it a permanent feed ... and I'd have a second leisure battery to
feed it from, wired in via a split charge relay so that when I drove
anywhere it would get a charge boost, though it ought to last a weekend.
Our 12v in the caravan, at only 90 Ah, lasts almost a full week running
fridge, lights, and water pump without recharging.

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Old 07-21-2005, 03:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Depends if you want a proper job or just enough for 1 weekends
camping!

I personally would use a permenant fused live feed and, as you say,
let the fridge thermostat do its work.

However, its what you connect it to that should concern you most.

I have a small coolbox type fridge (which is admittedly cheap and
crappy but does the job on a cool-warm day). When running on a warm
day it WILL drain the battery quite happily if it is working all day
which couldl leave you stranded.

If its just for a one off I would suggest you dont leave it running
for any more than 4-6hrs (to be safe and sure your car will start
again).

If its for a more permenant solution, as someone else said a second
battery and split charge is a must. Having said that, rather than
shell out the 's for 2nd battery and split charge I swapped my bog
standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
what I need at the moment.

Others may suggest that a heavy relay for a couple of is enough for
a split charge system...I'm not too sure about that and hence did not
go down that route.

Jon


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:44:06 +0000 (UTC), "Mark Solesbury"
<msolesbury@IHATESPAMSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>OT, but i thought that someone in here MUST know!
>
>I am going camping for the weeked, and want to put a 12v fridge in my car.
>
>If i connect it up, should i connect it to an ingnition feed so that its not
>on all the while, or should i wire it so it IS on all the while and let the
>thermostat in the fridge do its work.,
>
>
>
>Mark.
>


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Old 07-21-2005, 05:02   #4 (permalink)
Paul - xxx
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Jon came up with the following;:

> I swapped my bog
> standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
> day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
> what I need at the moment.


Hmmm ... thinking of doing similar to our 300Tdi, how do you get on with the
'bigger' battery? Is it worth the extra cost?

We only occasionally need the extra oomph of a larger battery, but when we
do it's normally also at just a time when we'll also need to be sure we can
start the engine the next day ..

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Old 07-21-2005, 05:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

If possible plug it into the cigarette lighter. If you cannot, then use an
ignition feed. If you leave it on all the time you will soon have a flat
battery. When you mean camping are you going to use the 12volt supply on
site or is a gas fridge as well?
Mick

"Mark Solesbury" <msolesbury@IHATESPAMSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> OT, but i thought that someone in here MUST know!
>
> I am going camping for the weeked, and want to put a 12v fridge in my car.
>
> If i connect it up, should i connect it to an ingnition feed so that its
> not
> on all the while, or should i wire it so it IS on all the while and let
> the
> thermostat in the fridge do its work.,
>
>
>
> Mark.
>
>



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Old 07-21-2005, 15:03   #6 (permalink)
Jon
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

>Jon came up with the following;:
>
>> I swapped my bog
>> standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
>> day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
>> what I need at the moment.

>
>Hmmm ... thinking of doing similar to our 300Tdi, how do you get on with the
>'bigger' battery? Is it worth the extra cost?
>


Battery is great. It has massive CCA's and also the ability to
sustain light loads for a long period of time. The Oddyssey is like
having an optima red top and yellow top all in one, only it can give a
considerable more CCA's than the red top.

I thought long and hard beofre handing over the cash, but am now
pleased I did.

>We only occasionally need the extra oomph of a larger battery, but when we
>do it's normally also at just a time when we'll also need to be sure we can
>start the engine the next day ..


Indeed. Isnt it always the same!
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Old 07-21-2005, 15:03   #7 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

On or around Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:07:13 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Jon came up with the following;:
>
>> I swapped my bog
>> standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
>> day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
>> what I need at the moment.

>
>Hmmm ... thinking of doing similar to our 300Tdi, how do you get on with the
>'bigger' battery? Is it worth the extra cost?
>


small commercial battery (644 or 645) will fit the 300 TDi, with about 1/4"
to spare.

You need to re-route the wiring harness which runs around the end of the
battery and you need to attack the battery holding clamp to make it fit.
Neither job it difficult.

make sure you get the right battery (can't tell you right now, ours is out)
as the wrong one has the terminals the wrong way round and the wires might
not reach.

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Old 07-21-2005, 15:03   #8 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Sorry I didnt realise you where considering putting battery in a
Disco...Size may well be important, its not such an issue in a
Defender.


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:40:25 +0100, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>On or around Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:07:13 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
><notcheckedever@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Jon came up with the following;:
>>
>>> I swapped my bog
>>> standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
>>> day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
>>> what I need at the moment.

>>
>>Hmmm ... thinking of doing similar to our 300Tdi, how do you get on with the
>>'bigger' battery? Is it worth the extra cost?
>>

>
>small commercial battery (644 or 645) will fit the 300 TDi, with about 1/4"
>to spare.
>
>You need to re-route the wiring harness which runs around the end of the
>battery and you need to attack the battery holding clamp to make it fit.
>Neither job it difficult.
>
>make sure you get the right battery (can't tell you right now, ours is out)
>as the wrong one has the terminals the wrong way round and the wires might
>not reach.


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Old 07-21-2005, 15:03   #9 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Austin Shackles came up with the following;:

> make sure you get the right battery (can't tell you right now, ours is
> out) as the wrong one has the terminals the wrong way round and the wires
> might not reach.


Heheheh, that'd really piss me off if I did that ... thanks.

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Old 07-21-2005, 15:03   #10 (permalink)
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Re: OT - 12v Fridges

Jon came up with the following;:
>> Jon came up with the following;:
>>
>>> I swapped my bog
>>> standard battery for an Oddyssey PC1700. That will run the fridge all
>>> day and night and still start my 200tdi in the morning - perfect for
>>> what I need at the moment.

>>
>> Hmmm ... thinking of doing similar to our 300Tdi, how do you get on with
>> the 'bigger' battery? Is it worth the extra cost?
>>

>
> Battery is great. It has massive CCA's and also the ability to
> sustain light loads for a long period of time. The Oddyssey is like
> having an optima red top and yellow top all in one, only it can give a
> considerable more CCA's than the red top.
>
> I thought long and hard beofre handing over the cash, but am now
> pleased I did.
>
>> We only occasionally need the extra oomph of a larger battery, but when
>> we do it's normally also at just a time when we'll also need to be sure
>> we can start the engine the next day ..

>
> Indeed. Isnt it always the same!


Cheers Jon, appreciated.

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