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Old 11-06-2005, 04:01   #1 (permalink)
Graham G
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OT: Ifor Williams Trailer

Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He wasn't
going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money second
hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400 for a
three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay and they
make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone had any
suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:01   #2 (permalink)
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In message <3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net>
"Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote:

> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He wasn't
> going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money second
> hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400 for a
> three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay and they
> make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone had any
> suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?
>


If you are offered one "for the right money" make sure you take asbestos
gloves with you to view.........

Richard

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:01   #3 (permalink)
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beamendsltd muttered summat about:

> In message <3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net>
> "Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote:
>
>> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides.
>> He wasn't going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy
>> money second hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he
>> figured 1400 for a three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been
>> looking on ebay and they make anything up to 2000 for an old one!!
>> Wondered if anyone had any suggestions of where to locate one at
>> sensible money?
>>

>
> If you are offered one "for the right money" make sure you take
> asbestos gloves with you to view.........
>
> Richard


Why do you say that? Have seen no end in farm sales making sensible money,
trouble is, now actually want one there aren't any farm sales. Can't see the
sense in buying an old one for more than 1400 when for an extra 500 you
could have a new one with a warranty!

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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In message <9ca08bc54d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com>, beamendsltd
<beamendsltd@btconnect.com> writes
>In message <3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net>
> "Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote:
>
>> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He wasn't
>> going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money second
>> hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400 for a
>> three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay and they
>> make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone had any
>> suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?
>>

>
>If you are offered one "for the right money" make sure you take asbestos
>gloves with you to view.........
>

Absolutely. It's important to remember that a fresher one will have a
plate with a number on it. If you ring IW they will now who they sold it
to.
Horseboxe's are routinely chipped now.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Ifor Williams Trailer

>Why do you say that? Have seen no end in farm sales making sensible money,
>trouble is, now actually want one there aren't any farm sales. Can't see the
>sense in buying an old one for more than 1400 when for an extra 500 you
>could have a new one with a warranty!



Chances are it will be nicked if it is cheep !


Friend of mine bought a brand new one 18 years ago (14fit with sides
etc) he used and abused it and this year sold it on ebay in need of
floor and tyres. He lost 400 pounds in 18years ! That's what I call
depreciation.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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"Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote in
news:3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net:

> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He
> wasn't going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy
> money second hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he
> figured 1400 for a three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been
> looking on ebay and they make anything up to 2000 for an old one!!
> Wondered if anyone had any suggestions of where to locate one at
> sensible money?
>


I suspect this is a fertile area for VAT fraud.

I bought a very nice 8X5 twin axle IW for a reasonable price (no VAT) --
but it required a complete replacement of the brakes on one wheel. That is
enough to put most purchasers off, but it was easily fixed.

So, I have been keeping an eye on prices of secondhand trailers in our
local paper (ScotAds)in case I can find another in a similar condition!

It seems to me that some buy a new trailer, re-claim the VAT, use it for
six months, then sell without VAT on the secondhand market for cash,
claiming it was stolen or sold for a lot less -- or they replace it with
another cheaper -- or perhaps don't bother! Instant profit. The VAT on a
1900 trailer is damned nearly 300.

Derry
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote in message
news:3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net...
> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He
> wasn't going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money
> second hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400
> for a three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay and
> they make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone had any
> suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?
>
> --
> Graham
>
> 101 GS
> 101 Rad Bod
>


Keep an eye out on www.4x4web.co.uk.

They now have a link for farm/plant/trailers etc.
There's a 16 footer on there at the moment by ifor williams, 2 years old for
1100 ono.It doesn't mention sides though!.
hth.


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Old 11-06-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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"bones" <hectichouse2005@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:436e5cca_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote in message
> news:3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net...
>> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He
>> wasn't going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money
>> second hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400
>> for a three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay
>> and they make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone
>> had any suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?
>>
>> --
>> Graham
>>
>> 101 GS
>> 101 Rad Bod
>>

>
> Keep an eye out on www.4x4web.co.uk.
>
> They now have a link for farm/plant/trailers etc.
> There's a 16 footer on there at the moment by ifor williams, 2 years old
> for 1100 ono.It doesn't mention sides though!.
> hth.


have a shufty at wessex trailers (think the website is very obvious)

they are based in bournemouth from memory, but also have a site in coventry.

we've used one of their 16 ft plant trailers, and they are fab to tow

HTH

Si


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Old 11-07-2005, 07:01   #9 (permalink)
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SiK muttered summat about:

> "bones" <hectichouse2005@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:436e5cca_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> "Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com> wrote in message
>> news:3t68pnFrc8gsU1@individual.net...
>>> Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides.
>>> He wasn't going to buy new, but it would appear that they make
>>> crazy money second hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so
>>> he figured 1400 for a three year old one ought to be plenty. He's
>>> been looking on ebay and they make anything up to 2000 for an old
>>> one!! Wondered if anyone had any suggestions of where to locate one
>>> at sensible money? --
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> 101 GS
>>> 101 Rad Bod
>>>

>>
>> Keep an eye out on www.4x4web.co.uk.
>>
>> They now have a link for farm/plant/trailers etc.
>> There's a 16 footer on there at the moment by ifor williams, 2 years
>> old for 1100 ono.It doesn't mention sides though!.
>> hth.

>
> have a shufty at wessex trailers (think the website is very obvious)
>
> they are based in bournemouth from memory, but also have a site in
> coventry.
> we've used one of their 16 ft plant trailers, and they are fab to tow
>
> HTH
>
> Si


Thanks all!! Will pass the info on. Keep telling him to go for a new one,
but he says he can't justify it so will have to remain on the look out I
guess.

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Old 11-07-2005, 16:01   #10 (permalink)
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On or around Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:47:14 -0000, "Graham G" <NOSPAM@here.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Father is after a fourteen foot Ifor Williams flat bed with sides. He wasn't
>going to buy new, but it would appear that they make crazy money second
>hand. He has been quoted 1900 for a new one, so he figured 1400 for a
>three year old one ought to be plenty. He's been looking on ebay and they
>make anything up to 2000 for an old one!! Wondered if anyone had any
>suggestions of where to locate one at sensible money?


<hat=trailer-builder>

email me the required spec:
size (load bed, hitch height)
required load capacity,
desired wheels (small ones, LR size, van size)
wheel config (underfloor, outboard, etc.)

and I'll have a crack at pricing up making you one...

I'd have thought it'd come in under 1900 (not checked component prices
lately), but it'll not be galvanised. Probably prime it with galvafroid
instead, or equivalent.

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