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Old 01-10-2006, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
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OT..OK it's a jeep....

http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/


I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?

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Old 01-10-2006, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
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Brian wrote:
>
> http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>
> I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
> that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?
>
> Brian NZ


I was about to write: "I've driven one". But that was before I saw the
page.
I've driven a WWII (Willy's) Jeep with 4 wheel steering in France. It is
unbelievable fun. And after so many years this one still goes in daily
service. Well, it (Jeep) is the mother of all Land Rovers. Something we
can't deny
Erik-Jan.
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Old 01-10-2006, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....

On Tuesday 10 January 2006 23:42, Erik-Jan Geniets [ej@fotograaf.com] wrote
in message <43C44680.AEBA4EAF@fotograaf.com>

> Brian wrote:
>>
>> http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>>
>> I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>> that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme'
>> landrover?
>>
>> Brian NZ

>
> I was about to write: "I've driven one". But that was before I saw the
> page.
> I've driven a WWII (Willy's) Jeep with 4 wheel steering in France. It is
> unbelievable fun. And after so many years this one still goes in daily
> service. Well, it (Jeep) is the mother of all Land Rovers. Something we
> can't deny


And *how* her children have prospered! :-)

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Old 01-10-2006, 17:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....



PDannyD wrote:
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> On Tuesday 10 January 2006 23:42, Erik-Jan Geniets [ej@fotograaf.com] wrote
> in message <43C44680.AEBA4EAF@fotograaf.com>
>
> > Brian wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
> >>
> >> I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
> >> that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme'
> >> landrover?
> >>
> >> Brian NZ

> >
> > I was about to write: "I've driven one". But that was before I saw the
> > page.
> > I've driven a WWII (Willy's) Jeep with 4 wheel steering in France. It is
> > unbelievable fun. And after so many years this one still goes in daily
> > service. Well, it (Jeep) is the mother of all Land Rovers. Something we
> > can't deny

>
> And *how* her children have prospered! :-)


Yep! Darwin is still ruling here :-)
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Old 01-11-2006, 06:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +1300, Brian <brian@itnz.co.nz> scribbled
the following nonsense:

>http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>
>
>I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?
>
>Brian NZ


Have seen people at Billing selling the four wheel steering kits for
mega bucks, also needs a front axle, which you have to mount at the
back, and turn updside down, as the diff is no longer in the right
place.

One guy in our club has one, turns on a sixpence, and can crab steer
too!
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Old 01-11-2006, 06:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....

On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<me@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +1300, Brian <brian@itnz.co.nz> scribbled
>the following nonsense:
>
>>http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>>
>>
>>I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>>that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?
>>
>>Brian NZ

>
>Have seen people at Billing selling the four wheel steering kits for
>mega bucks, also needs a front axle, which you have to mount at the
>back, and turn updside down, as the diff is no longer in the right
>place.
>


Depending on the length of vehicle you might get away with a different
propshaft, rather than reworking the axle to be the other way up. I'd be
inclined to take that approach, meself.
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:36:48 +0000, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
><me@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +1300, Brian <brian@itnz.co.nz> scribbled
>>the following nonsense:
>>
>>>http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>>>
>>>
>>>I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>>>that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?
>>>
>>>Brian NZ

>>
>>Have seen people at Billing selling the four wheel steering kits for
>>mega bucks, also needs a front axle, which you have to mount at the
>>back, and turn updside down, as the diff is no longer in the right
>>place.
>>

>
>Depending on the length of vehicle you might get away with a different
>propshaft, rather than reworking the axle to be the other way up. I'd be
>inclined to take that approach, meself.


most of the challenge trucks are 90's or 100" vehicles, so cant
realkly do that. Also add in the extreme angles of articulation
achieved in challenge events, especially with modified suspension
setups, and things get very tricky!
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Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
> <me@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +1300, Brian <brian@itnz.co.nz>
>> scribbled the following nonsense:
>>
>>> http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>>>
>>>
>>> I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>>> that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme'
>>> landrover?
>>>
>>> Brian NZ

>>
>> Have seen people at Billing selling the four wheel steering kits for
>> mega bucks, also needs a front axle, which you have to mount at the
>> back, and turn updside down, as the diff is no longer in the right
>> place.
>>

>
> Depending on the length of vehicle you might get away with a different
> propshaft, rather than reworking the axle to be the other way up.
> I'd be inclined to take that approach, meself.


if you don't turn it upside down don't it tear off backwards? Maybe literally!

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Old 01-11-2006, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: OT..OK it's a jeep....

In article <5c2as15f39gjepll4qs9blosmgtifnaq1s@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> writes
>On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:06:48 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
><me@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +1300, Brian <brian@itnz.co.nz> scribbled
>>the following nonsense:
>>
>>>http://www.gizmag.com/go/3599/
>>>
>>>
>>>I realise Jeep is a swearword here, but it's the four wheel steering
>>>that is interesting. Something that could be done on an 'extreme' landrover?
>>>
>>>Brian NZ

>>
>>Have seen people at Billing selling the four wheel steering kits for
>>mega bucks, also needs a front axle, which you have to mount at the
>>back, and turn updside down, as the diff is no longer in the right
>>place.
>>

>
>Depending on the length of vehicle you might get away with a different
>propshaft, rather than reworking the axle to be the other way up. I'd be
>inclined to take that approach, meself.


I don't get that.

Shirley it's because of the left-right asymmetry that you have to turn
it over? How would a different propshaft help you (unless you run the
prop on a diagonal?!) ?

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Old 01-11-2006, 12:01   #10 (permalink)
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On or around Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:14:08 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> Depending on the length of vehicle you might get away with a different
>> propshaft, rather than reworking the axle to be the other way up. I'd be
>> inclined to take that approach, meself.

>
>It needs to be flipped so as it drives in the appropriate direction, the
>fact that the symmetry is corrected when you do this is merely a happy
>coincidence.


it doesn't actually have to be upside-down to drive in the right direction,
though I grant that this would get the diff in the right place. I guess
your main problem is breathers, you'd have to block the existing one and
make a new one on the new top.

That and alter the spring mounts, and stuff like that.

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