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Old 09-14-2005, 00:01   #1 (permalink)
Austin Shackles
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toying with how to make the minibus ride more smoothly on rough roads, and
one option may be larger wheels - it's very low-geared, so upping the
gearing a touch wouldn't hurt.

Anyone know of dual-type wheels (i.e. the ones with huge offset), summat
like 5.5J16, which will fit on a 6-stud 170mm PCD hub?

Failing that, anyone have a link to the people who make the cheap white
8-spokes and so forth?

New transits are on 16", but naturally, they've changed the PCD.

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Old 09-14-2005, 04:01   #2 (permalink)
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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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>
> toying with how to make the minibus ride more smoothly on rough roads, and
> one option may be larger wheels - it's very low-geared, so upping the
> gearing a touch wouldn't hurt.
>
> Anyone know of dual-type wheels (i.e. the ones with huge offset), summat
> like 5.5J16, which will fit on a 6-stud 170mm PCD hub?
>
> Failing that, anyone have a link to the people who make the cheap white
> 8-spokes and so forth?
>
> New transits are on 16", but naturally, they've changed the PCD.


Bigger tyres???

Razor straps ride like a go cart so surely the reverse is applicable... or
by smooth do you mean less wallowy??

Lee D


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Old 09-14-2005, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:48:19 +0100, "Lee_D"
<newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>news:ergfi1le3bhvrclmk1n3rloeqf0tnpntvu@4ax.com...
>>

>Bigger tyres???
>
>Razor straps ride like a go cart so surely the reverse is applicable... or
>by smooth do you mean less wallowy??


nah, smoothing out small bumps is the plan. Already tried bigger tyres run
softer, and they work a bit better: standard tyres are 185R14, it's now got
195s on the front, and will, provided I keep it, eventually get 195s on the
rear as well - can't fit bigger ones on the twin wheels as they'll touch in
the middle - 195 is the max.

bigger diameter looks a good prospect.


However, 's all changing on the school front (again!!) and as such I may not
need 8 passenger seats, so judging by the price that S/H LRs are fetching,
especially discos, I might go back to a disco at this rate, or maybe a
newer/tidier 110 CSW - I like the CSW, and in fact, prefer it to the disco,
really. If I did that, I'd not be bothered about making the minibus ride
better, of course.

it's a good 10 mph slower on the rough stuff than the disco/110 were. Disco
is the softest-riding of the lot, of course, but in a 110 I reckon if I did
rear-facing seats I could get 3 rows of 3 in. might do it front-facing, at
that; provided I could get access.

And no, I don't want a 101. Well, actually, I do - but to get one and get
it converted and sorted as a proper bus would cost too much.

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horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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Hi, what about the old large style transit the "A" series they had 16" dual
wheels also I think the Bedford TK's were 16" but I don't know the PCD
though, but were 6 stud ..

Rich

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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:48:19 +0100, "Lee_D"
> <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
> >news:ergfi1le3bhvrclmk1n3rloeqf0tnpntvu@4ax.com...
> >>

> >Bigger tyres???
> >
> >Razor straps ride like a go cart so surely the reverse is applicable...

or
> >by smooth do you mean less wallowy??

>
> nah, smoothing out small bumps is the plan. Already tried bigger tyres

run
> softer, and they work a bit better: standard tyres are 185R14, it's now

got
> 195s on the front, and will, provided I keep it, eventually get 195s on

the
> rear as well - can't fit bigger ones on the twin wheels as they'll touch

in
> the middle - 195 is the max.
>
> bigger diameter looks a good prospect.
>
>
> However, 's all changing on the school front (again!!) and as such I may

not
> need 8 passenger seats, so judging by the price that S/H LRs are fetching,
> especially discos, I might go back to a disco at this rate, or maybe a
> newer/tidier 110 CSW - I like the CSW, and in fact, prefer it to the

disco,
> really. If I did that, I'd not be bothered about making the minibus ride
> better, of course.
>
> it's a good 10 mph slower on the rough stuff than the disco/110 were.

Disco
> is the softest-riding of the lot, of course, but in a 110 I reckon if I

did
> rear-facing seats I could get 3 rows of 3 in. might do it front-facing,

at
> that; provided I could get access.
>
> And no, I don't want a 101. Well, actually, I do - but to get one and get
> it converted and sorted as a proper bus would cost too much.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
> from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
> horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
> Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.



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Old 09-15-2005, 12:01   #5 (permalink)
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On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:19:06 GMT, "Rich"
<r3engineering@ntlworldspam.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Hi, what about the old large style transit the "A" series they had 16" dual
>wheels also I think the Bedford TK's were 16" but I don't know the PCD
>though, but were 6 stud ..
>


Yeah, I'd thought of A series wheels, but they're gonna be hard to find now.
The standard 7.5T type wheels are too big, in several ways.

need to visit a local scrap bloke, who might have A series wheels.

newer transits are on 15", but bigger PCD and bigger hole in the middle. I
could get round that, I reckon: make or get made an accurate ring of steel,
same thickness as the original wheel centre, made to fit accurately and
chamfered, weld this into the middle, grind flat and then drill new mounting
holes at the right PCD, in between the old ones.

This would work on most wheels, of course. The normal ones seem to be 5.5"
wide. Don't want to go much wider, though 6" would be OK.

There is another possibility, which is to add spacers in between the dual
wheels which will let me fit fatter rear tyres to the existing rims, dunno
how much spare stud there is - it's gonna need probably 10mm more, which
doubtless means longer studs, and they probably can't be got.

'course, I could use SWB LR rims and get someone to make different centres
for 'em...
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"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
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Old 09-15-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
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Do they have to be duals on the back what about wide singles, there is a
company MJ Engineering did some custom wheels for a purple 101 !!!

Rich

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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:19:06 GMT, "Rich"
> <r3engineering@ntlworldspam.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Hi, what about the old large style transit the "A" series they had 16"

dual
> >wheels also I think the Bedford TK's were 16" but I don't know the PCD
> >though, but were 6 stud ..
> >

>
> Yeah, I'd thought of A series wheels, but they're gonna be hard to find

now.
> The standard 7.5T type wheels are too big, in several ways.
>
> need to visit a local scrap bloke, who might have A series wheels.
>
> newer transits are on 15", but bigger PCD and bigger hole in the middle.

I
> could get round that, I reckon: make or get made an accurate ring of

steel,
> same thickness as the original wheel centre, made to fit accurately and
> chamfered, weld this into the middle, grind flat and then drill new

mounting
> holes at the right PCD, in between the old ones.
>
> This would work on most wheels, of course. The normal ones seem to be

5.5"
> wide. Don't want to go much wider, though 6" would be OK.
>
> There is another possibility, which is to add spacers in between the dual
> wheels which will let me fit fatter rear tyres to the existing rims, dunno
> how much spare stud there is - it's gonna need probably 10mm more, which
> doubtless means longer studs, and they probably can't be got.
>
> 'course, I could use SWB LR rims and get someone to make different centres
> for 'em...
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
> from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
> horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
> Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.



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Old 09-16-2005, 02:01   #7 (permalink)
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On or around Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:25:32 GMT, "Rich"
<r3engineering@ntlworldspam.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Do they have to be duals on the back what about wide singles, there is a
>company MJ Engineering did some custom wheels for a purple 101 !!!
>


2 put singles on the back really requires the other sort of axle. And I've
an inkling of how much the wheels mentioned cost...
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