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Old 01-06-2006, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
Doorbell
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Re: Land rover MOT's

I've just rung up VOSA on the MOT enquiry line (0845 600 5977 - got a human
being within 1 min!!). The girl on the phone said that the MOT testing
stations go by the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW - The top number on the VIN
plate) In my case this is 2710Kg - Series III 109 hard top. As this is below
3000Kg the MOT required is Class 4 (ordinary car type). She said that MOT
testing stations ignore the revenue weight. Has any body else got any
comments on this. Web site is: http://www.vosa.gov.uk

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Old 01-06-2006, 06:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Land rover MOT's

thanks for that info , its very usefull .

so it seems that landrover 110s with 3050kg GVW could possibly have an
issue that puts them out of class 4 and into 7 if the normal garages
dont test vehicles over 3000kg .

i am presuming the STATION WAGON weight 2950kg weight referes to 110
country types , ie with seats and windows - 5 door .

from what youve said so long as the TOP figure on the VIN plate is
under 3000 , then a class 4 test applies, but if over this then the
vehicle needs to go to a class7 test centre .

we obviously need more class 7 test centres now then .

im kind of relieved becasue i have a 90 , but i was going to buy a 110
instead and to be honest i dont want to have a ton of trouble in where
i can and cant take my landy for MOT .

i use a one man owned class 4 test centre close to my workshop and
find him very honest and helpfull and i dont really want to have to go
somewhere else because i feel much safer driving the vehicle that hes
checked over .

i know test centres are supposed to be the same, but you cant beat a
bit of personal touch as well on top of it all .

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Old 01-06-2006, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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"> thanks for that info , its very usefull .
>
> so it seems that landrover 110s with 3050kg GVW could possibly have an
> issue that puts them out of class 4 and into 7 if the normal garages
> dont test vehicles over 3000kg .
>
> i am presuming the STATION WAGON weight 2950kg weight referes to 110
> country types , ie with seats and windows - 5 door .
>
> from what youve said so long as the TOP figure on the VIN plate is
> under 3000 , then a class 4 test applies, but if over this then the
> vehicle needs to go to a class7 test centre .


I don't beleive so, as long as to figure is less than 3500kg, a Landrover
can be considered a 'Dual-Purpose' vehicle as long as it is 4WD, can carry a
passenger, and is less than 2040kg Unladen.
Dual purpose vehicles still have a Class4 MoT.
The problem seems to be convincing the test centre that it is a Dual Purpose
vehicle without ULW on the V5 or the plate.

Regards
Jeff



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Old 01-06-2006, 10:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Land rover MOT's

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:24:06 -0000, "Jeff" <jeff@local.host> wrote:

>
>"> thanks for that info , its very usefull .
>>
>> so it seems that landrover 110s with 3050kg GVW could possibly have an
>> issue that puts them out of class 4 and into 7 if the normal garages
>> dont test vehicles over 3000kg .
>>
>> i am presuming the STATION WAGON weight 2950kg weight referes to 110
>> country types , ie with seats and windows - 5 door .
>>
>> from what youve said so long as the TOP figure on the VIN plate is
>> under 3000 , then a class 4 test applies, but if over this then the
>> vehicle needs to go to a class7 test centre .

>
>I don't beleive so, as long as to figure is less than 3500kg, a Landrover
>can be considered a 'Dual-Purpose' vehicle as long as it is 4WD, can carry a
>passenger, and is less than 2040kg Unladen.
>Dual purpose vehicles still have a Class4 MoT.
>The problem seems to be convincing the test centre that it is a Dual Purpose
>vehicle without ULW on the V5 or the plate.
>
>Regards
>Jeff
>
>

With reference to Statutory instrument (1999) No 2864, ( is this still
current?)

Under interpretation, part of para 3 b - dual purpose vehicle" means a
motor vehicle which is constructed or adapted both to carry or haul
goods and to carry more than eight persons in addition to the driver.

So does the new Disco 3 come into class 7 @ 3230kg GVW?

All the best

Lofty

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Old 01-06-2006, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
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Seems eminently sensible to me, I just hope my camper conversion don't break
the ramp hydraulics :)

Mind you my limo was plated at 3.7 tonnes and nobody ever called that a
commercial.


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"Doorbell" <doorbell@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:SXrvf.84803$PD2.11242@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> I've just rung up VOSA on the MOT enquiry line (0845 600 5977 - got a

human
> being within 1 min!!). The girl on the phone said that the MOT testing
> stations go by the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW - The top number on the VIN
> plate) In my case this is 2710Kg - Series III 109 hard top. As this is

below
> 3000Kg the MOT required is Class 4 (ordinary car type). She said that MOT
> testing stations ignore the revenue weight. Has any body else got any
> comments on this. Web site is: http://www.vosa.gov.uk
>
> --
> 1982 Series III 109
>
>



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Old 01-06-2006, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
Larry
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Re: Land rover MOT's

I think the simple reality is that the numbers mean diddly squat. There is
the weight of the vehicle with fuel and the amount of space in the back and
on the roof, and beyond that whatever it will carry without bending the
chassis which I'll warrant is much more than one supposes. Look at all the
special versions and figure how much weight a fire tender is carrying.

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"m0bcg" <almacottage@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for that info , its very usefull .
>
> so it seems that landrover 110s with 3050kg GVW could possibly have an
> issue that puts them out of class 4 and into 7 if the normal garages
> dont test vehicles over 3000kg .
>
> i am presuming the STATION WAGON weight 2950kg weight referes to 110
> country types , ie with seats and windows - 5 door .
>
> from what youve said so long as the TOP figure on the VIN plate is
> under 3000 , then a class 4 test applies, but if over this then the
> vehicle needs to go to a class7 test centre .
>
> we obviously need more class 7 test centres now then .
>
> im kind of relieved becasue i have a 90 , but i was going to buy a 110
> instead and to be honest i dont want to have a ton of trouble in where
> i can and cant take my landy for MOT .
>
> i use a one man owned class 4 test centre close to my workshop and
> find him very honest and helpfull and i dont really want to have to go
> somewhere else because i feel much safer driving the vehicle that hes
> checked over .
>
> i know test centres are supposed to be the same, but you cant beat a
> bit of personal touch as well on top of it all .
>



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Old 01-06-2006, 14:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Larry" <NDA@larry-arnold.cwm> wrote in message
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> Seems eminently sensible to me, I just hope my camper conversion don't
> break
> the ramp hydraulics :)
>
> Mind you my limo was plated at 3.7 tonnes and nobody ever called that a
> commercial.
>
>
> --
> Larry
> Series 3 rust and holes
>
>
> "Doorbell" <doorbell@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:SXrvf.84803$PD2.11242@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> I've just rung up VOSA on the MOT enquiry line (0845 600 5977 - got a

> human
>> being within 1 min!!). The girl on the phone said that the MOT testing
>> stations go by the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW - The top number on the VIN
>> plate) In my case this is 2710Kg - Series III 109 hard top. As this is

> below
>> 3000Kg the MOT required is Class 4 (ordinary car type). She said that MOT
>> testing stations ignore the revenue weight. Has any body else got any
>> comments on this. Web site is: http://www.vosa.gov.uk
>>
>> --
>> 1982 Series III 109
>>
>>

>
>


"Camper conversions" are a different kettle of fish.

After talking to the DVLA and looking at the MOT rules
Any size "Motor Caravan" can be tested as a class 4 MOT

The definition of a Motor Caravan is reasonable and relates to having a bed,
table, seats, storage etc

We plan to get a Volvo B10M coach with a Gross Vehicle Weight of about
18000Kg which has been part converted in to a motor caravan tested as a
Class 4 MOT.

Finding a place that can MOT it though has been a challenge.

A


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Old 01-06-2006, 15:01   #8 (permalink)
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Well just so long as it is not a bendi bus they must present some problems

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<A> wrote in message news:3qudnThAVrFsfCPeRVny2g@pipex.net...
>
> "Larry" <NDA@larry-arnold.cwm> wrote in message
> news:dpmd8b$pdj$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Camper conversions" are a different kettle of fish.
>
> After talking to the DVLA and looking at the MOT rules
> Any size "Motor Caravan" can be tested as a class 4 MOT
>
> The definition of a Motor Caravan is reasonable and relates to having a

bed,
> table, seats, storage etc
>
> We plan to get a Volvo B10M coach with a Gross Vehicle Weight of about
> 18000Kg which has been part converted in to a motor caravan tested as a
> Class 4 MOT.
>
> Finding a place that can MOT it though has been a challenge.
>
> A
>
>



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Old 01-07-2006, 02:01   #9 (permalink)
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On or around Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:34:05 -0000, <A> enlightened us thusly:

>
>We plan to get a Volvo B10M coach with a Gross Vehicle Weight of about
>18000Kg which has been part converted in to a motor caravan tested as a
>Class 4 MOT.
>
>Finding a place that can MOT it though has been a challenge.


I bet I know one.

Uses a pit rather than a lift, and the pit is made big enough to do
commericals on.

not sure about brake tester, mind - twin wheels on big stuff won't fit on
the normal rollers, probably.
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:01   #10 (permalink)
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In message <dq1vr1pdm48e8j7mek8kdgtdmvau350len@4ax.com>
Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> On or around Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:34:05 -0000, <A> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >
> >We plan to get a Volvo B10M coach with a Gross Vehicle Weight of about
> >18000Kg which has been part converted in to a motor caravan tested as a
> >Class 4 MOT.
> >
> >Finding a place that can MOT it though has been a challenge.

>
> I bet I know one.
>
> Uses a pit rather than a lift, and the pit is made big enough to do
> commericals on.
>
> not sure about brake tester, mind - twin wheels on big stuff won't fit on
> the normal rollers, probably.


Just take it to your local truck/bus MOT place - they can issue the
approriate certificate - you *must* book in advance, tell them what
you want, and it won't be cheap.

Richard
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