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Old 06-14-2005, 00:29   #1 (permalink)
JD
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Re: series power steering

Tom Woods wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
> <samuelmcgregor@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
>>> isn't a Series II/III.......
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> --

>>
>>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
>>further backs up your point Richard.

>
> 101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
> too.
> The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
> in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
> outriggers/x-members.
>
>>Sam.
>>


Not exactly "based on RR running gear". More the case of the two types,
which were developed at the same time, sharing engine and gearbox/transfer
case. Axles are not shared (and are not shared with any other Landrovers
either), and as you say, they are leaf sprung, and the wheels and brakes
are not shared with any other Landrover.
JD
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Old 06-14-2005, 00:29   #2 (permalink)
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>Well, i stand partialy corrected. but getting back to the point, it may or
>may not be easier to fit p/s to a 101 or a standard LWB series, but more
>importantly i think people are more likely to fit p/s to a 101 out of
>necessity.
>


Power steering is not needed on a 101 unless you are a) very weedy or
b) do lots of very low speed manoeuvering

Once rolling at all it is very easy to drive.

Oh, or c) fat enough to need a small steering wheel.

No names....



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Old 06-14-2005, 00:30   #3 (permalink)
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Re: series power steering

Tim Hobbs wrote:

>
>>Well, i stand partialy corrected. but getting back to the point, it may or
>>may not be easier to fit p/s to a 101 or a standard LWB series, but more
>>importantly i think people are more likely to fit p/s to a 101 out of
>>necessity.
>>

>
> Power steering is not needed on a 101 unless you are a) very weedy or
> b) do lots of very low speed manoeuvering
>
> Once rolling at all it is very easy to drive.
>
> Oh, or c) fat enough to need a small steering wheel.
>
> No names....
>
>
>

Same comments apply to Series Landrovers. Power steering is generally not
needed provided the front tyre pressures are correct and the tyre sizes are
at least close to those specified, subject to your specified conditions.
JD
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Old 06-14-2005, 00:30   #4 (permalink)
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Re: series power steering

beamendsltd wrote:

> In message <429e1659@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> JD <jjd@SPAMLESS.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Tom Woods wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
>> > <samuelmcgregor@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
>> >>> isn't a Series II/III.......
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>
>> >>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
>> >>further backs up your point Richard.
>> >
>> > 101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
>> > too.
>> > The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
>> > in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
>> > outriggers/x-members.
>> >
>> >>Sam.
>> >>

>>
>> Not exactly "based on RR running gear". More the case of the two types,
>> which were developed at the same time, sharing engine and
>> gearbox/transfer case. Axles are not shared (and are not shared with any
>> other Landrovers either), and as you say, they are leaf sprung, and the
>> wheels and brakes are not shared with any other Landrover.
>> JD

>
> Actually the 101 was first - the gearbox was developed for the 101
> and then used on RR. Th story for the engine is less clear, the V8
> had been been messed around with for a number of years before
> finding it's first production home in the 101.
> The brakes are the same as Series II/III 1-Ton and Stage 1 V8.
>
> Richard


Learn something every day! I did not know the brakes were the same as the
One Ton/Stage 1 (V8 & 3.9 diesel), although, of course the drums are not
the same as the stud pattern is not.
Although the 101 appeared before the RR my understanding is that the gearbox
was developed for both. I seem to remember that the V8 first appeared in
the 3.5 saloon.
JD
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