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Old 09-30-2005, 08:01   #1 (permalink)
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Re: Things that never make the news...

In message <vcgqj1lkfkiq368qctrdr9ibfjma8uesb5@4ax.com>
Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> A EU funded 'focus group' (sic) made a recommendation that the EU
> introduce legislation to ban vehicle manufacturers from including an
> ashtray in the design of new cars, as it may encourage drivers to
> smoke.
>


Chrysler made a bit fuss about an ashtray-less car a couple of years
ago. The current model has an ashtray. As an aside, working for a car
maker I expressed a little surprise that the new car (luxury jobbie)
had positioning of teh ashtray as quite such an important design
issue (I got involved being a smoker). The reply from the marketing
types was that quite a lot of wealthy types enjoy a cigar in he car,
though they would swear blind they were non-smokers. Obvioulsy
this was US market - Europeans (excluding the Commosioners) are far
more tollerant.

> They concluded that smoking whilst driving was dangerous, furthermore,
> it posed a health risk to the driver and potentially, via passive
> smoking, any passenger(s). They queried whether they (the EU) could
> later face actions and claims for illness or injury as a consequence
> of not implementing such a strategy.
>


Seeing as nitcotine is a stimulant, that's always puzzled me - a smoker
is far more alert than a driver who has not had a stimulant (Dr. Magnus
Pike got into trouble for pointing this out on the TV).

> Thankfully someone saw sense before this went any further. Sadly the
> focus group were not summarily executed and are now looking at banning
> pointed kitchen knives.


Perhaps they should view old editions on Blue Peter....... anyone
who gets that is showing their age!

>
> This, at the time when the EU say that they intend to simplify
> legislation and make it more understandable!
>
>


The sad thing is that a lot of the *really* silly laws don't come
out of the EU - they are home-grown and everyone assumes they are
from the EU.

Richard

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:01   #2 (permalink)
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>
>> They concluded that smoking whilst driving was dangerous, furthermore,
>> it posed a health risk to the driver and potentially, via passive
>> smoking, any passenger(s). They queried whether they (the EU) could
>> later face actions and claims for illness or injury as a consequence
>> of not implementing such a strategy.
>>

>
>Seeing as nitcotine is a stimulant, that's always puzzled me - a smoker
>is far more alert than a driver who has not had a stimulant (Dr. Magnus
>Pike got into trouble for pointing this out on the TV).
>


I think that they're more concerned, and rightly so, about drivers
going along the road who take both hands off the wheel whilst
simultaneously peering intently at the end of the fag in order to
light it.

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:01   #3 (permalink)
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> >> They concluded that smoking whilst driving was dangerous, furthermore,
> >> it posed a health risk to the driver and potentially, via passive
> >> smoking, any passenger(s). They queried whether they (the EU) could
> >> later face actions and claims for illness or injury as a consequence
> >> of not implementing such a strategy.
> >>

> >
> >Seeing as nitcotine is a stimulant, that's always puzzled me - a smoker
> >is far more alert than a driver who has not had a stimulant (Dr. Magnus
> >Pike got into trouble for pointing this out on the TV).
> >

>
> I think that they're more concerned, and rightly so, about drivers
> going along the road who take both hands off the wheel whilst
> simultaneously peering intently at the end of the fag in order to
> light it.


Yes, its ok to drive while lighting a cigarette and then have one hand on
the wheel while smoking it (taking in a quite powerful drug), and what about
when the red hot end falls off into your lap......
But I can't use my mobile phone without risking a fine!

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Things that never make the news...

beamendsltd wrote:

> The sad thing is that a lot of the *really* silly laws don't come
> out of the EU - they are home-grown and everyone assumes they are
> from the EU.


....but mostly created by dictats from Brussels with our own bureaucrats
adding a little spin and gold plating.

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:01   #5 (permalink)
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Alex <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote:

>
> >
> >> They concluded that smoking whilst driving was dangerous, furthermore,
> >> it posed a health risk to the driver and potentially, via passive
> >> smoking, any passenger(s). They queried whether they (the EU) could
> >> later face actions and claims for illness or injury as a consequence
> >> of not implementing such a strategy.
> >>

> >
> >Seeing as nitcotine is a stimulant, that's always puzzled me - a smoker
> >is far more alert than a driver who has not had a stimulant (Dr. Magnus
> >Pike got into trouble for pointing this out on the TV).
> >

>
> I think that they're more concerned, and rightly so, about drivers
> going along the road who take both hands off the wheel whilst
> simultaneously peering intently at the end of the fag in order to
> light it.
>
> Alex


You don't need to take more than one hand off the wheel to light
a fag, and anyone who has smoked for more than 10 mins won't even
need to take their eyes off the road (you know where the end of
your fag is, they are far too expensive to risk lighting half way
along!)

Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)

Richard

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Old 09-30-2005, 10:01   #6 (permalink)
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Mother wrote:

> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
> kids in the back...


Just turn up the stereo.

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Old 09-30-2005, 10:01   #7 (permalink)
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> Mother wrote:
>
>> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
>> kids in the back...

>
> Just turn up the stereo.
>
> Steve


And stick a cigar in each ear.


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Old 09-30-2005, 11:01   #8 (permalink)
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>On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>>Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
>>out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
>>and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
>>should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)

>
>Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
>kids in the back...
>
>

A f****** barking dog!!!
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:02   #9 (permalink)
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hugh wrote:

> A f****** barking dog!!!


On its own ? On the back seat or the roofrack ?

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Old 09-30-2005, 13:02   #10 (permalink)
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Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:12:04 +0100, "Dadio" <noreply@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, its ok to drive while lighting a cigarette and then have one
>> hand on the wheel while smoking it (taking in a quite powerful
>> drug), and what about when the red hot end falls off into your
>> lap......

>
> I blame the nanny state and totally inadequate driving instructors who
> fail to teach you how to roll a spliff in your lap whilst changing the
> cassette, finding the toy yer kid has just thrown under the brake
> pedal and finishing off yer internet order with Tesco...
>
> Mind, avoiding the red hot bit falling into yer lap is equally
> important. Last time that happened I had to slam the brakes on really
> hard, causing me to spill my pint over the crossword I'd nearly
> finished...


One of the most strange ones i ever actually saw (I know yer kiddin, dont worry) was a bloke pumping iron
around Jc35 southbound, not kiddin'

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