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Old 12-12-2005, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
Paul - xxx
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Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust fitted
(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre box fell
apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale Quest seems to
have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So, Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3
hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder, large tyre levers, ramps,
trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts and flange were foobar so they
fabricated one for me from another exhaust ... 28

I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross tyres
from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it, for which I
had already given them a drinkie poo (10)

So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly, the
alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just that bit
brighter ...

Whatever piss is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've done
me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the battery for
which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be fabricated, for less than
a ton.

I is happy.

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Old 12-12-2005, 15:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:

>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust fitted
>(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,


I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
"Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.

28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
(Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
cutting torch!)

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Old 12-12-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Regarding exhausts ... and good service.


"Judith" <no.spam.for.goofif.please@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1purp198kcftvjmlkk6dqj7vokpki6spqg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>>fitted
>>(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,

>
> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
> only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
> when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
> "Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.
>
> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
> cutting torch!)
>
> Judith


I was thinking similar 3 1/3 hours? plus I wonder why a ramp axle stands and
a jack or have we discovered David Blunketts day job?
Derek


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Old 12-12-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

Derek came up with the following;:
> "Judith" <no.spam.for.goofif.please@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1purp198kcftvjmlkk6dqj7vokpki6spqg@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
>> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>>> fitted
>>> (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,

>>
>> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
>> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
>> only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
>> when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
>> "Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.
>>
>> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
>> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
>> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
>> cutting torch!)
>>
>> Judith

>
> I was thinking similar 3 1/3 hours? plus I wonder why a ramp axle stands
> and a jack or have we discovered David Blunketts day job?


We'd dented the exhaust quite badly and bent it enough that it wouldn't come
out under normal suspension ... the jack lifted the rear up, with an axle
stand, so that it opened the gap up between suspension and axle. The back
of the middle section had effectively been swaged onto the rear section and
needed cutting (grinder) then burning to get it to release. The rear
section was still like new ...

Then the flange from the middle to front section which has studs in it also
needed the studs removing, and in the process of this the flange broke, so
they pillaged one off another exhaust and 'made it fit'. Cracking job,
which I wouldn't have been able to do, even if I'd had the equipment
available.

And there was the battery and two motorcycle wheels.

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Old 12-12-2005, 16:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

Judith came up with the following;:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>> fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,

>
> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
> only cost 55 quid.


Yup. rear bit only in Feb was 27 IIRC.

> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
> cutting torch!)


I only changed the exhaust on our S3 once, which made me use Kwik Fit this
year ...

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Old 12-13-2005, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
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In message <406b6jF18qkaqU1@individual.net>, Paul - xxx
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre
>box fell apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale
>Quest seems to have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So,
>Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3 hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder,
>large tyre levers, ramps, trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts
>and flange were foobar so they fabricated one for me from another
>exhaust ... 28
>
>I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross
>tyres from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it,
>for which I had already given them a drinkie poo (10)
>
>So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly,
>the alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just
>that bit brighter ...
>
>Whatever piss is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've
>done me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the
>battery for which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be
>fabricated, for less than a ton.
>
>I is happy.
>



Glad you are happy.

Genuine landrover exhaust is only 110 quid + vat and fitting. Will last
at least 4 years and probably 6, only takes 45 mins to fit all things
going well.

Kwik fit exhaust as you have found out is not as well made and will
probably die one day outside the two year warranty.
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Old 12-13-2005, 13:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

Marc Draper came up with the following;:
> In message <406b6jF18qkaqU1@individual.net>, Paul - xxx
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>> fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre
>> box fell apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale
>> Quest seems to have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So,
>> Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3 hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder,
>> large tyre levers, ramps, trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts
>> and flange were foobar so they fabricated one for me from another
>> exhaust ... 28
>>
>> I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross
>> tyres from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it,
>> for which I had already given them a drinkie poo (10)
>>
>> So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly,
>> the alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just
>> that bit brighter ...
>>
>> Whatever piss is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've
>> done me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the
>> battery for which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be
>> fabricated, for less than a ton.
>>
>> I is happy.
>>

>
>
> Glad you are happy.
>
> Genuine landrover exhaust is only 110 quid + vat and fitting. Will last
> at least 4 years and probably 6, only takes 45 mins to fit all things
> going well.


All things going well wouldn't have happened, and it was a genuine LR
exhaust that broke, not the KF bit. As I said, I couldn't have done it in
the school car park (I'm a school caretaker) with my limited tool resources.
I don't have burning gear, for instance ... We use the Disco off-road
enough to have bent the exhaust quite substantially, which would have made
home removal impossible.

> Kwik fit exhaust as you have found out is not as well made and will
> probably die one day outside the two year warranty.


The Kwik fit bits are the ones that have lasted ... it was the middle box,
genuine LR, that broke, not the bit that KF fitted.

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Old 12-13-2005, 17:02   #8 (permalink)
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>
>The Kwik fit bits are the ones that have lasted ... it was the middle
>box, genuine LR, that broke, not the bit that KF fitted.
>



Land rover don't do a "middle box"

It is down pipe/cat then one long single exhaust that comprises of two
silencers. It is only the after market manufacturers that split it in
to two .
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:01   #9 (permalink)
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Marc Draper came up with the following;:
>> The Kwik fit bits are the ones that have lasted ... it was the middle
>> box, genuine LR, that broke, not the bit that KF fitted.
>>

>
>
> Land rover don't do a "middle box"
>
> It is down pipe/cat then one long single exhaust that comprises of two
> silencers. It is only the after market manufacturers that split it in
> to two .


When the genuine LR back box went in Feb, Kwik Fit said they should really
do the whole exhaust up to the manifold, but if I wanted they'd chop it off
in front of the back box and put on an after market silencer. This cost
them money, I guess. This time the remaining bit off gen LR silencer went,
and they duly fitted another aftermarket set, removing and replacing the
still good rear bit. This, I felt, deserved a little praise for work above
and beyond what's usual practice. Kwik Fit cannot have made any money on
either of the transactions. Especially as they also changed the motorbike
wheels/tyres/tubes for nothing other than me giving the lads that did it a
drink.

In my book that deserves praise, even if I take the piss for their dancing
adverts ...

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Old 12-14-2005, 03:01   #10 (permalink)
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In message <40a954F19g3rdU1@individual.net>, Paul - xxx
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes


>
>In my book that deserves praise, even if I take the piss for their
>dancing adverts ...
>


I agree it is most unusual to get that sort of treatment from any fast
fit centre.

Or perhaps you only ever hear that bad stuff !

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