Bollhoff now have a min order £75 so unless you need loadsa rivnuts forget
it ;-(
Roy.
"Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:I62dnRNafMdQUFveRVny1A@eclipse.net.uk...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> ...and Steve Taylor spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>
>>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>>>>
>>>>but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
>>>
>>>No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
>>>aces.
>>>
>>>>don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going
>>>>round inside when you try to remove the bolt?
>>>
>>>By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>>
>> Problem with rivnuts is that if you drill the hole even fractionally too
>> large, there is no friction on the riv bit (of the rivnut) and you can't
>> stop it turning as you extract the bolt. I damaged two of them in trying
>> (mole grips etc) and ended up having to strip out the door lining and fit
>> a proper bolt through. The location of the holes is behing the door
>> lock, so I ended up soldering the bolt to a length of stiff wire to get
>> it into the right position. Whole job took most of a day. That's why I
>> need to do it right next time!
>>
>
> There are many variants of these around some of which have non-round or
> serrated bodies to avoid this problem - Böllhoff do a hexagonal body for
> example:
> http://www.bollhoff.com/web/germany/...ML/r_plus.html
> http://www.bollhoff.com/web/germany/...uehrungen.html
> as do Avdel:
> http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9498.htm
> It's not so easy to make the hole though.
>
> Avoid the varieties with thin outer flanges e.g. thin sheet Nutsert:
> http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9658.htm
> - they need an essentially flat surface and have no tolerance of oversize
> or out-of-round holes.
> You're far batter with a variety that does not end up flush with the
> surface if you can tolerate that:
> http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9408.htm
>
> If you have trouble with the insert rotating as you tighten the bolt,
> temporarily fit a spring washer against the outer face of the insert and
> behind something that will act as a counterhold (this could be the bracket
> that you are attaching) while you tighten the bolt. Once the insert has
> been compressed, dismantle, remove washer and reassemble.
In message <dq8uq3$ah1$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
"LR90" <Ro.Webb@btinterne.com> wrote:
> Bollhoff now have a min order £75 so unless you need loadsa rivnuts forget
> it ;-(
>
> Roy.
<shameless plug>
We have various nutserts in stock - 22p to 54p depending on size,
M5 and M8 and (I think) M10, the others I've not noted their size but
could probably work it out. They are widely used on late model vehicles
for holding on mud flaps, side steps etc.
</shameless plug>
Richard
>
> "Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:I62dnRNafMdQUFveRVny1A@eclipse.net.uk...
> > Richard Brookman wrote:
> >
> >> ...and Steve Taylor spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> >>
> >>>Austin Shackles wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
> >>>>
> >>>>but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
> >>>
> >>>No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
> >>>aces.
> >>>
> >>>>don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going
> >>>>round inside when you try to remove the bolt?
> >>>
> >>>By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
> >>>
> >>>Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> Problem with rivnuts is that if you drill the hole even fractionally too
> >> large, there is no friction on the riv bit (of the rivnut) and you can't
> >> stop it turning as you extract the bolt. I damaged two of them in trying
> >> (mole grips etc) and ended up having to strip out the door lining and fit
> >> a proper bolt through. The location of the holes is behing the door
> >> lock, so I ended up soldering the bolt to a length of stiff wire to get
> >> it into the right position. Whole job took most of a day. That's why I
> >> need to do it right next time!
> >>
> >
> > There are many variants of these around some of which have non-round or
> > serrated bodies to avoid this problem - Böllhoff do a hexagonal body for
> > example:
> > http://www.bollhoff.com/web/germany/...ML/r_plus.html
> > http://www.bollhoff.com/web/germany/...uehrungen.html
> > as do Avdel:
> > http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9498.htm
> > It's not so easy to make the hole though.
> >
> > Avoid the varieties with thin outer flanges e.g. thin sheet Nutsert:
> > http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9658.htm
> > - they need an essentially flat surface and have no tolerance of oversize
> > or out-of-round holes.
> > You're far batter with a variety that does not end up flush with the
> > surface if you can tolerate that:
> > http://www.avdel.textron.com/brochur...ables/9408.htm
> >
> > If you have trouble with the insert rotating as you tighten the bolt,
> > temporarily fit a spring washer against the outer face of the insert and
> > behind something that will act as a counterhold (this could be the bracket
> > that you are attaching) while you tighten the bolt. Once the insert has
> > been compressed, dismantle, remove washer and reassemble.
>
>
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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <dq8uq3$ah1$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
> "LR90" <Ro.Webb@btinterne.com> wrote:
>
>> Bollhoff now have a min order £75 so unless you need loadsa rivnuts forget
>> it ;-(
>>
>> Roy.
>
> <shameless plug>
>
> We have various nutserts in stock - 22p to 54p depending on size,
> M5 and M8 and (I think) M10, the others I've not noted their size but
> could probably work it out. They are widely used on late model vehicles
> for holding on mud flaps, side steps etc.
>
> </shameless plug>
In message <43c8c487$0$29566$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>
Steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:
> beamendsltd wrote:
> > In message <dq8uq3$ah1$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
> > "LR90" <Ro.Webb@btinterne.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bollhoff now have a min order £75 so unless you need loadsa rivnuts forget
> >> it ;-(
> >>
> >> Roy.
> >
> > <shameless plug>
> >
> > We have various nutserts in stock - 22p to 54p depending on size,
> > M5 and M8 and (I think) M10, the others I've not noted their size but
> > could probably work it out. They are widely used on late model vehicles
> > for holding on mud flaps, side steps etc.
> >
> > </shameless plug>
>
> How about tool rental too ?
>
> Steve
It's a thought, but I just use the space and bolt method.
Richard
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....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am
>> moving the rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
>
> What size ? I have some M10, but that does seem a bit big.There are
> some M8 and M6, somewhere. Let me know what you want.
>
> Steve
I've measured the holes in the ladder and they are 8mm. I don't know what
that translates to in rivnut sizes. If you could send me 4 (plus one for
luck? I mangled a couple last time) that would be great. If you send me
your address I will send you the cost of postage plus a "charitable
donation" - would that be OK?
If any regular on this group needs a shot of a rivnut tool then drop me
a line, beware postage costs would probably be about a fiver each way
in the uk, the kit isn't light. Selection of rivnuts with it, you pay
for any used @ Richard's prices or just replace them yourself. Does
from M3 to M8. If Richard decides to offer rental commercially then
this offer stops.
> I've measured the holes in the ladder and they are 8mm. I don't know what
> that translates to in rivnut sizes. If you could send me 4 (plus one for
> luck? I mangled a couple last time) that would be great. If you send me
> your address I will send you the cost of postage plus a "charitable
> donation" - would that be OK?
Hi Rich,
That's M8 ones then. I'll have a look on Monday.
On or around Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:49:46 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>The brakes still pull to the right despite them stripping and cleaning
>the fronts and finding stuck pistons and leaky seals. I suspect it's
>the rears, the rear driver's side locks up a long time before the
>passenger side when I leap on the pedal.
rear calipers are just as likely to seize, and less likely to get looked at.
--
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Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> I've measured the holes in the ladder and they are 8mm. I don't
>> know what that translates to in rivnut sizes. If you could send me
>> 4 (plus one for luck? I mangled a couple last time) that would be
>> great. If you send me your address I will send you the cost of
>> postage plus a "charitable donation" - would that be OK?
>
> Hi Rich,
> That's M8 ones then. I'll have a look on Monday.
>
> Steve
Many thanks O helpful one.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> I've measured the holes in the ladder and they are 8mm. I don't know
>> what that translates to in rivnut sizes. If you could send me 4 (plus
>> one for luck? I mangled a couple last time) that would be great. If
>> you send me your address I will send you the cost of postage plus a
>> "charitable donation" - would that be OK?
>
>
> Hi Rich,
> That's M8 ones then. I'll have a look on Monday.
>
> Steve
Emmm! More like M6 (if metric) or the nut has zero wall thickness!
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