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Old 04-07-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
Hirsty's
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Rover shutdown ??

What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve on
LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:10:23 GMT, "Hirsty's" <magnum.458@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve on
>LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?


Since one is owned by Ford (LR) and the other is owned by John Towers
and his crew, none whatsoever.....

As for whether Solihull will be closed, that's a question all of its
own.


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Old 04-07-2005, 10:03   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

In message <z3c5e.513$%P1.332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, Hirsty's
<magnum.458@ntlworld.com> writes
>What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve on
>LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?



Why?

Ford own Landrover. Nothing to do with Rover anymore
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:03   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

"Hirsty's" <magnum.458@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:z3c5e.513$%P1.332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve
> on
> LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?


Wasn't the MG badge sold off seperately if I recall correctly? Or was that
just the Mini side of things that got split last time around? Whatever It
seems like the slippery slope for Rover , politics aside.

Lee D


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Old 04-07-2005, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

This may cause a lot of subcontract manufacturers to go out of buisness in
the area.
This would mean that the subcontract manufacturers would posibly be in
competition with people supplying landrover, if they don't go bust, greater
competition, lower costs. This element of competition may prevent Land Rover
building vehicles abroad to save costs.

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"Hirsty's" <magnum.458@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve
> on
> LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?
>
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> privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

Thought they want to build (Defender) abroad due to lower labour cost?
Richard


"JJ" <jjmet1979@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This may cause a lot of subcontract manufacturers to go out of buisness in
> the area.
> This would mean that the subcontract manufacturers would posibly be in
> competition with people supplying landrover, if they don't go bust,
> greater competition, lower costs. This element of competition may prevent
> Land Rover building vehicles abroad to save costs.
>
> Regards JJ
>
>
> "Hirsty's" <magnum.458@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:z3c5e.513$%P1.332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve
>> on
>> LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> " ..... it is the provenence of knowledge to speak, and it is the
>> privelage
>> of wisdom to listen"
>>
>>

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Old 04-08-2005, 04:02   #7 (permalink)
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In message <z3c5e.513$%P1.332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>
"Hirsty's" <magnum.458@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> What effect will the MG Rover shutdown and possible administartiomn ahve on
> LR ? I wonder if they will be closed as well ?
>


It'll have no direct effect on LR, but the ineveitable
collapse of the supplier companies could well mean component
problems to the after-market (there's very little made in the
UK on new LR's).

No doubt we will now have endless days of so-called experts
pontficating on the reasons for Rovers failure, but like
Patricia Hewet (sp?) pretending to be sad on TV last night,
they will have just got out of their Audi. The real reason
for the failure is that we, unlike the French, Italians and
Germans absolutely insist on not supporting our own
industry. Personally, I'm waiting for the day that the
Stock Exchange is sold to Germany (on the cards by the way)
and the b**t*rds who think other peopes jobs going down
the pan is good business lose theirs.

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Old 04-08-2005, 05:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:41:24 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<tim@101ambulance-urine.net> wrote:

>Since one is owned by Ford (LR) and the other is owned by John Towers
>and his crew, none whatsoever.....


The only thing that surprised me was how long it took for JT to asset
strip and kill Rover off altogether. The other bidder in the frame
when JT took over Rover for the massive ten quid was accused of
planning to asset strip the company, build MG and retire Rover - seems
quite odd that they may actually have had the better business plan.

The 'Chinese Deal' was always a small scarlet fish IMO.

The 'gang of four' have all personally done _very_ well out of their
ten quid, though.

>As for whether Solihull will be closed, that's a question all of its
>own.


Not really. There's no longer any question about it.

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Old 04-08-2005, 06:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:13:07 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:41:24 +0100, Tim Hobbs
><tim@101ambulance-urine.net> wrote:
>
>>Since one is owned by Ford (LR) and the other is owned by John Towers
>>and his crew, none whatsoever.....

>
>The only thing that surprised me was how long it took for JT to asset
>strip and kill Rover off altogether. The other bidder in the frame
>when JT took over Rover for the massive ten quid was accused of
>planning to asset strip the company, build MG and retire Rover - seems
>quite odd that they may actually have had the better business plan.
>
>The 'Chinese Deal' was always a small scarlet fish IMO.


The plan, AIUI, was to design a car and build it cheaply and China AND
build it expensively in the UK. Yes, of course, makes perfect
sense....

>
>The 'gang of four' have all personally done _very_ well out of their
>ten quid, though.


Oh yes indeedy. the only good thing about the whole, seemingly
inevitable, collapse is that it comes at the worst possible moment for
Big Tony.

>
>>As for whether Solihull will be closed, that's a question all of its
>>own.

>
>Not really. There's no longer any question about it.


I don't think so either.

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Old 04-08-2005, 11:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Rover shutdown ??

So Tim Hobbs was, like

>
> Oh yes indeedy. the only good thing about the whole, seemingly
> inevitable, collapse is that it comes at the worst possible moment for
> Big Tony.


Not much good to say at all (having been part of a mass redundancy myself
three years ago), but yes - agreed. My interest is not in watching them
squirm (although that will have some entertainment value), but in how they
will shift responsibility to someone else and come out smelling of roses.
If they can get away with Iraq, they should manage this one. Strangely,
they have been putting ministers on the radio to talk about it, which they
haven't done for years - usually a short statement blaming the Tories is
considered enough for the ignorant public.

>
>>
>>> As for whether Solihull will be closed, that's a question all of its
>>> own.

>>
>> Not really. There's no longer any question about it.

>
> I don't think so either.


On the Today programme this morning (UK radio), Patricia Hewitt said that
some of the engines made in the Rover plant were used to power Land Rovers.
Which would these be, then? Something little in a Freelander?

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