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Old 11-05-2005, 02:01   #1 (permalink)
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RRC LSE Brake pipes

Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the brake pipes doing before next MOT (April)
I have never thought of doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it? He reckons the
front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are easy?

How much for the bits please Richard?

He managed to nip up the tweeting exhaust manifold, but he also reckons it will need new gaskets. Doesn't
look a very hard job. He told me the studs do actually move & aren't all seized in. Any thoughts?

All in all, he reckons it's in decent condition with no rust on the chassis at all. Odd that the rear
tailgate crossmember (not the chassis) is totally fecked. The sills, bulkhead & other 'perishable' panels
are fine. It was used by the Farm association (or some other bollocks name) so I wonder if Richards
thoughts on foot & mouth antiseptic jizz is correct in this case?

The main thing I noticed is with the change of plugs. The tickover & revving are smoother than before
(no, not just the placebo effect of a service either!!) Someone has also put some Magnecors on at some
time recently too!!

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Old 11-05-2005, 03:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

In message <3t3d6oFr02v2U1@individual.net>
"Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the brake pipes doing before next MOT (April)
> I have never thought of doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it? He reckons the
> front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are easy?
>
> How much for the bits please Richard?


Much as it goes againt my Arkwrightian instincts, it would be easier and
cheaper to make the pipes up as you replace them - plus you get copper pipe
too. The longer genuine ones come rolled up in a bag, so any pre-shaping is
pretty much lost anyway. The only snag would be borrowing/hiring a
flaring tool - but then you could measure the lengths of pipe required
anf have somone fit the ends and flare them.

>
> He managed to nip up the tweeting exhaust manifold, but he also reckons it will need new gaskets. Doesn't
> look a very hard job. He told me the studs do actually move & aren't all seized in. Any thoughts?


With free studs it's a doddle - loosen the studs on each bank, remove the
ones necessary for each gasket in turn and replace the gasket, tighten up.
(Excludes time taken searching for dropped bits on the floor).

>
> All in all, he reckons it's in decent condition with no rust on the chassis at all. Odd that the rear
> tailgate crossmember (not the chassis) is totally fecked. The sills, bulkhead & other 'perishable' panels
> are fine. It was used by the Farm association (or some other bollocks name) so I wonder if Richards
> thoughts on foot & mouth antiseptic jizz is correct in this case?
>
> The main thing I noticed is with the change of plugs. The tickover & revving are smoother than before
> (no, not just the placebo effect of a service either!!) Someone has also put some Magnecors on at some
> time recently too!!


Bugger.

>


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Old 11-05-2005, 04:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <3t3d6oFr02v2U1@individual.net>
> "Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the
>> brake pipes doing before next MOT (April) I have never thought of
>> doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it?
>> He reckons the front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are easy?
>>
>> How much for the bits please Richard?

>
> Much as it goes againt my Arkwrightian instincts, it would be easier
> and cheaper to make the pipes up as you replace them - plus you get
> copper pipe too. The longer genuine ones come rolled up in a bag, so
> any pre-shaping is pretty much lost anyway. The only snag would be
> borrowing/hiring a
> flaring tool - but then you could measure the lengths of pipe required
> anf have somone fit the ends and flare them.


Thats really what I meant Richard, no point in buying something thats shaped & then rolled up!

How much then?

>
>>
>> He managed to nip up the tweeting exhaust manifold, but he also
>> reckons it will need new gaskets. Doesn't look a very hard job. He
>> told me the studs do actually move & aren't all seized in. Any
>> thoughts?

>
> With free studs it's a doddle - loosen the studs on each bank, remove
> the ones necessary for each gasket in turn and replace the gasket,
> tighten up. (Excludes time taken searching for dropped bits on the
> floor).


I know all about that bit!! How much then? One thing, they look like bolts rather than studs & nuts? Is
it worth replacing them? I'll take a picture later to show you.

Can't be silly money I don't suppose!


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Old 11-05-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

Nige wrote:
> beamendsltd wrote:
>> In message <3t3d6oFr02v2U1@individual.net>
>> "Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the
>>> brake pipes doing before next MOT (April) I have never thought of
>>> doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it?
>>> He reckons the front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are easy?
>>>
>>> How much for the bits please Richard?

>> Much as it goes againt my Arkwrightian instincts, it would be easier
>> and cheaper to make the pipes up as you replace them - plus you get
>> copper pipe too. The longer genuine ones come rolled up in a bag, so
>> any pre-shaping is pretty much lost anyway. The only snag would be
>> borrowing/hiring a
>> flaring tool - but then you could measure the lengths of pipe required
>> anf have somone fit the ends and flare them.

>


Hi Nige,

The tools and stuff aren't terribly expensive, Frosts list them for 32
quid. The pipe is 12 quid for 25 metres of 3/16" cu-ni. Ends are a bit
difficult to find not in sets though.

Fancy a joint buy ? I need to do my 101 GS in places, and the ambi will
doubtless need it too.

Steve


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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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Steve wrote:
> Nige wrote:
>> beamendsltd wrote:
>>> In message <3t3d6oFr02v2U1@individual.net>
>>> "Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the
>>>> brake pipes doing before next MOT (April) I have never thought of
>>>> doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it?
>>>> He reckons the front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are
>>>> easy? How much for the bits please Richard?
>>> Much as it goes againt my Arkwrightian instincts, it would be easier
>>> and cheaper to make the pipes up as you replace them - plus you get
>>> copper pipe too. The longer genuine ones come rolled up in a bag, so
>>> any pre-shaping is pretty much lost anyway. The only snag would be
>>> borrowing/hiring a
>>> flaring tool - but then you could measure the lengths of pipe
>>> required anf have somone fit the ends and flare them.

>>

>
> Hi Nige,
>
> The tools and stuff aren't terribly expensive, Frosts list them for 32
> quid. The pipe is 12 quid for 25 metres of 3/16" cu-ni. Ends are a bit
> difficult to find not in sets though.
>
> Fancy a joint buy ? I need to do my 101 GS in places, and the ambi
> will doubtless need it too.
>
> Steve


Yeah, sounds good!
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

Nige wrote:

> Yeah, sounds good!


I live about 5 miles from Frosts, and two of our subcontractors are next
door to them. What do you need ? One of those boxes of fittings ?

Steve
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

Steve wrote:
> Nige wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sounds good!

>
> I live about 5 miles from Frosts, and two of our subcontractors are
> next door to them. What do you need ? One of those boxes of fittings ?
>
> Steve


Enough stuff to do a RRC LSE matey. awd only knows how many!

ige

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Old 11-05-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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In message <3t3ipoFqe1efU1@individual.net>
"Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote:
> > In message <3t3d6oFr02v2U1@individual.net>
> > "Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Had it serviced yesterday & the chap mentioned it will need the
> >> brake pipes doing before next MOT (April) I have never thought of
> >> doing it myself, but I am willing to give it a go. How hard is it?
> >> He reckons the front to back pipes are a twat but the rest are easy?
> >>
> >> How much for the bits please Richard?

> >
> > Much as it goes againt my Arkwrightian instincts, it would be easier
> > and cheaper to make the pipes up as you replace them - plus you get
> > copper pipe too. The longer genuine ones come rolled up in a bag, so
> > any pre-shaping is pretty much lost anyway. The only snag would be
> > borrowing/hiring a
> > flaring tool - but then you could measure the lengths of pipe required
> > anf have somone fit the ends and flare them.

>
> Thats really what I meant Richard, no point in buying something thats shaped & then rolled up!
>
> How much then?
>
> >
> >>
> >> He managed to nip up the tweeting exhaust manifold, but he also
> >> reckons it will need new gaskets. Doesn't look a very hard job. He
> >> told me the studs do actually move & aren't all seized in. Any
> >> thoughts?

> >
> > With free studs it's a doddle - loosen the studs on each bank, remove
> > the ones necessary for each gasket in turn and replace the gasket,
> > tighten up. (Excludes time taken searching for dropped bits on the
> > floor).

>
> I know all about that bit!! How much then? One thing, they look like bolts rather than studs & nuts? Is
> it worth replacing them? I'll take a picture later to show you.
>
> Can't be silly money I don't suppose!
>
>


ERR6733 Exhaust Manifold Gasket - V8 ('Double' Type) 2.35 inc VAT

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Old 11-05-2005, 10:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: RRC LSE Brake pipes

beamendsltd wrote

>>
>>

>
> ERR6733 Exhaust Manifold Gasket - V8 ('Double' Type) 2.35 inc VAT
>
> Richard


Sweet, send me some then matey! What about the studs/bolts etc?


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Old 11-05-2005, 10:01   #10 (permalink)
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In message <3t466qFr3nnuU1@individual.net>
"Nige" <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote
>
> >>
> >>

> >
> > ERR6733 Exhaust Manifold Gasket - V8 ('Double' Type) 2.35 inc VAT
> >
> > Richard

>
> Sweet, send me some then matey! What about the studs/bolts etc?
>
>


15-off SH506095L Screw - Exhaust Manifold Fixing - V8 0.88 inc VAT
1-off ERC3690 Pend
8-off ERC7321 Locking Plate - Manifold - V8 0.72 inc VAT

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