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Old 08-15-2005, 06:01   #1 (permalink)
gbubb@drytecltd.com
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Series swivels - to grease or not?

What is the current thinking on using one shot grease in Series
swivels?

I know when it first appeared it was said it was not suitable due to
the fact it wouldn't lubricate the UJ or swivel pin properly. By now
there must be good or bad experience in using it, so what is the
consensus?

Gordon
(needing to rebuild/replace the swivels etc on his 80)

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Old 08-15-2005, 10:01   #2 (permalink)
Pete S
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Re: Series swivels - to grease or not?


<gbubb@drytecltd.com> wrote in message
news:1124109523.835335.218480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> What is the current thinking on using one shot grease in Series
> swivels?
>
> I know when it first appeared it was said it was not suitable due to
> the fact it wouldn't lubricate the UJ or swivel pin properly. By now
> there must be good or bad experience in using it, so what is the
> consensus?
>
> Gordon
> (needing to rebuild/replace the swivels etc on his 80)
>

Depends why you are doing it, in my case I tried it on a leaky swivel but it
leaked the grease as well, the only cure for me was to replace the housing.

Peter.


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Old 08-15-2005, 14:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Series swivels - to grease or not?

gbubb@drytecltd.com wrote:

> What is the current thinking on using one shot grease in Series
> swivels?
>
> I know when it first appeared it was said it was not suitable due to
> the fact it wouldn't lubricate the UJ or swivel pin properly. By now
> there must be good or bad experience in using it, so what is the
> consensus?
>
> Gordon
> (needing to rebuild/replace the swivels etc on his 80)


I don't have any experience with it, but the problem is whether it
adequately lubricates the railco bush- should be no problem with the
U-joint. However, unless you have just replaced the bush, it will be
saturated with oil (assuming you have had oil in the housing!) and will
take a long time to dry out.
If you are doing it because the seal is leaking significantly, you need to
remember that if it is leaking out, it is probably leaking in - and the
mixture of one-shot, mud, sand and water won't do any of the parts any good
- and you won't know any better until things start to go bad.
JD
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Old 08-15-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
Roger & Lorraine Martin
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Re: Series swivels - to grease or not?


<gbubb@drytecltd.com> wrote in message
news:1124109523.835335.218480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> What is the current thinking on using one shot grease in Series
> swivels?
>
> I know when it first appeared it was said it was not suitable due to
> the fact it wouldn't lubricate the UJ or swivel pin properly. By now
> there must be good or bad experience in using it, so what is the
> consensus?
>
> Gordon
> (needing to rebuild/replace the swivels etc on his 80)
>


I pulled down an axle which had been using grease instead
of oil not long ago. The grease was firmly splattered around
the inside of the swivel housing, the axle was remarkably dry
and greaseless. The grease "fixes" the swivel leaks, but the
axle uni joint needs oil to bathe in.


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Old 08-15-2005, 21:01   #5 (permalink)
JD
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Re: Series swivels - to grease or not?

Roger & Lorraine Martin wrote:

>
> <gbubb@drytecltd.com> wrote in message
> news:1124109523.835335.218480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> What is the current thinking on using one shot grease in Series
>> swivels?
>>
>> I know when it first appeared it was said it was not suitable due to
>> the fact it wouldn't lubricate the UJ or swivel pin properly. By now
>> there must be good or bad experience in using it, so what is the
>> consensus?
>>
>> Gordon
>> (needing to rebuild/replace the swivels etc on his 80)
>>

>
> I pulled down an axle which had been using grease instead
> of oil not long ago. The grease was firmly splattered around
> the inside of the swivel housing, the axle was remarkably dry
> and greaseless. The grease "fixes" the swivel leaks, but the
> axle uni joint needs oil to bathe in.

Good feedback - thanks. Results probably depend on temperatures, how much it
is used, what type of use, and whether it has free wheel hubs.
JD
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Series swivels - to grease or not?

On or around Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:11:33 +1000, JD <jjd@SPAMLESS.com.au>
enlightened us thusly:

>Roger & Lorraine Martin wrote:
>
>>
>> I pulled down an axle which had been using grease instead
>> of oil not long ago. The grease was firmly splattered around
>> the inside of the swivel housing, the axle was remarkably dry
>> and greaseless. The grease "fixes" the swivel leaks, but the
>> axle uni joint needs oil to bathe in.

>Good feedback - thanks. Results probably depend on temperatures, how much it
>is used, what type of use, and whether it has free wheel hubs.
>JD


AIUI, FWH causes a starvation of oil to the Railko bush, anyway, if used for
long periods in free mode.

WRT the grease... unless it's very cold, the correct grease is semi-liquid
and will not stay all around the outside. Once running and if in use for
more thana few miles, the axle will warm up due to brake heat and other
friction, and the grease should then flow.
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