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"John Stokes" <email@example.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately I've just listened to this idiot and have suggested to the BBC
> that they might help the ozone layer by fitting this woman with a gag to
> stop hot air escaping!
> Why can't these morons do something constructive like targeting the pillocks
> of boy racers which plague everywhere in the UK.
> Cheers, John
In reponse to his jibe (I'm getting more and more fed up with his
personal predjudices being aired on the show) at the end, I sent
this mail. It at least made me feel better after listening to all
"Some people still have bull bars as a macho accessory. However, many have
them for practical purposes. When driving off-road, they provide
protection for vehicles, which where vehicles are used competetively
in RTV trials etc, can be considered necessary. Many users also use them,
and their vehicle, as temporary fencing for animals, pushing plant
and equipment, and even carrying equipment on when on-site.
Quite how they are supposed to be more dangerous that a low sports
car the will knock your feet from under you and crack your head on
the bonnet and/or windscreen just goes to show how little thought and how
much prejudice is involved in such a debate.
For certain, "the media" have no idea what uses 4x4 vehicles are put to,
not least as their entire point of view is expressed in terms of city
dwellers, usually London based.
The original TRRL report only indicated a slight increase in the dangers
represented by bull bars - the statistics have been manipulated by some
so-called "experts" (as they always are) to obtain a desired result to
support a particular point of view. As I recall, not mention of vans
has been made - should they be banned too?
On another topic, I notice on todays programme, in a style which is
becomming increaseingly evident on the Jeremy Vine show, that no one
was in the studio to argue the opposite case. It is noticable that
this happens when the subject it is a personal hobby-horse of the
Don't suppose it'll do any good - some just don't want to hear the
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