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Old 07-24-2005, 01:01   #1 (permalink)
Kent Shih
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Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so badly
when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that ill designed
plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel casing. I sprayed tons
of lubricant but to no avail.



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Old 07-24-2005, 05:01   #2 (permalink)
Pantelis Giamarellos
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

Kent hi,

I would suggest you contact mantec and ask them for a new plastic cylinder.
I am sure they will be able to assist on that.

Take care and nice to be hearing from you again (sorry about the problem
though)
Pantelis

"Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so

badly
> when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that ill designed
> plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel casing. I sprayed

tons
> of lubricant but to no avail.
>
>
>



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Old 07-30-2005, 18:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so badly
>when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that ill designed
>plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel casing. I sprayed tons
>of lubricant but to no avail.
>
>

Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!

Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?

However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
as the door swings open.

I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!

HTH

Neil

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Old 07-31-2005, 03:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

In message <jkele11euid1j3bu75cbhrgniab9p85ta3@4ax.com>, Neil
<donotuse@thisaddy.com> writes
>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so badly
>>when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that ill designed
>>plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel casing. I sprayed tons
>>of lubricant but to no avail.
>>
>>

>Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!
>
>Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
>slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
>using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?
>
>However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
>as the door swings open.
>
>I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
>plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
>slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
>does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
>parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
>Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
>extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!
>
>HTH
>
>Neil
>
>(Reply via NG please)

Yes I have one and it squeaks. It's a PITA.
--
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Old 07-31-2005, 04:01   #5 (permalink)
Derry Argue
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
news:9eeaAOANVJ7CFAsa@raefell.demon.co.uk:

> In message <jkele11euid1j3bu75cbhrgniab9p85ta3@4ax.com>, Neil
> <donotuse@thisaddy.com> writes
>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so
>>>badly when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that
>>>ill designed plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel
>>>casing. I sprayed tons of lubricant but to no avail.
>>>
>>>

>>Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!
>>
>>Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
>>slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
>>using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?
>>
>>However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
>>as the door swings open.
>>
>>I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
>>plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
>>slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
>>does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
>>parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
>>Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
>>extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>(Reply via NG please)

> Yes I have one and it squeaks. It's a PITA.


Drill, thread, insert grease nipple...??
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Old 07-31-2005, 06:01   #6 (permalink)
hugh
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

In message <Xns96A4720A696F7derryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4>, Derry
Argue <home@adviegundogs.co.uk> writes
>hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
>news:9eeaAOANVJ7CFAsa@raefell.demon.co.uk:
>
>> In message <jkele11euid1j3bu75cbhrgniab9p85ta3@4ax.com>, Neil
>> <donotuse@thisaddy.com> writes
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so
>>>>badly when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that
>>>>ill designed plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel
>>>>casing. I sprayed tons of lubricant but to no avail.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!
>>>
>>>Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
>>>slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
>>>using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?
>>>
>>>However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
>>>as the door swings open.
>>>
>>>I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
>>>plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
>>>slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
>>>does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
>>>parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
>>>Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
>>>extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>(Reply via NG please)

>> Yes I have one and it squeaks. It's a PITA.

>
>Drill, thread, insert grease nipple...??

Well maybe, but it's the most expensive on the market, so you'd expect
it to be right. Having said that when I came to mount it I found the
outer skin of my rear cross member did not have the standard holes
drilled. (50th Anniv with NAS style rear step/towbar) In fact I found 3
different layouts looking at other Defenders. The Mantec relies on the
holes for the rear right grab handle. I just had to line it up from the
top bracket as best I could.
--
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:02   #7 (permalink)
Richard
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier

I've had one for a few years and it doesnt squeak. What are you lubricating
it with ?
Richard


"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:ccAyg9B1oL7CFAoy@raefell.demon.co.uk...
> In message <Xns96A4720A696F7derryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4>, Derry Argue
> <home@adviegundogs.co.uk> writes
>>hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
>>news:9eeaAOANVJ7CFAsa@raefell.demon.co.uk:
>>
>>> In message <jkele11euid1j3bu75cbhrgniab9p85ta3@4ax.com>, Neil
>>> <donotuse@thisaddy.com> writes
>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so
>>>>>badly when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that
>>>>>ill designed plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel
>>>>>casing. I sprayed tons of lubricant but to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!
>>>>
>>>>Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
>>>>slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
>>>>using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?
>>>>
>>>>However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
>>>>as the door swings open.
>>>>
>>>>I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
>>>>plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
>>>>slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
>>>>does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
>>>>parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
>>>>Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
>>>>extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>(Reply via NG please)
>>> Yes I have one and it squeaks. It's a PITA.

>>
>>Drill, thread, insert grease nipple...??

> Well maybe, but it's the most expensive on the market, so you'd expect it
> to be right. Having said that when I came to mount it I found the outer
> skin of my rear cross member did not have the standard holes drilled.
> (50th Anniv with NAS style rear step/towbar) In fact I found 3 different
> layouts looking at other Defenders. The Mantec relies on the holes for the
> rear right grab handle. I just had to line it up from the top bracket as
> best I could.
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting



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Old 07-31-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
hugh
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Re: Squeaky Mantec spare carrier


I'm not - am I supposed to?

Hugh
In message <QT6He.43910$dN6.33706@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Richard
<NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> writes
>I've had one for a few years and it doesnt squeak. What are you lubricating
>it with ?
>Richard
>
>
>"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
>news:ccAyg9B1oL7CFAoy@raefell.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <Xns96A4720A696F7derryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4>, Derry Argue
>> <home@adviegundogs.co.uk> writes
>>>hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
>>>news:9eeaAOANVJ7CFAsa@raefell.demon.co.uk:
>>>
>>>> In message <jkele11euid1j3bu75cbhrgniab9p85ta3@4ax.com>, Neil
>>>> <donotuse@thisaddy.com> writes
>>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:30:12 -0700, "Kent Shih" <kentshih@yahoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Any body who owns a Mantec swing away spare carrier? Mine squeaks so
>>>>>>badly when opening and closing... I think the sound comes from that
>>>>>>ill designed plastic cylinder rubbing against badly rusted steel
>>>>>>casing. I sprayed tons of lubricant but to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yes! I've had mine for a few years now - it doesn't squeak!
>>>>>
>>>>>Come to think of it though, the tube into which the plastic cylinder
>>>>>slides on mine is stainless steel and rust free. Have Mantec stopped
>>>>>using stainless for the sliding cylinder housing?
>>>>>
>>>>>However, if it squeaks, I would suspect it's not staying in alignment
>>>>>as the door swings open.
>>>>>
>>>>>I suggest slackening off(but not removing) the nut securing the
>>>>>plastic cylinder to the frame, and then open and close the door
>>>>>slowly, watching to see if the bolt moves within it's slot. If it
>>>>>does, then the door hinge axis, and the carrier hinge axis are not
>>>>>parallel. Mine was initially like this when I first fitted it.
>>>>>Deciding which axis to move, and in which direction, I obtained an
>>>>>extra spacer for the lower mounting from Mantec. Problem solved!
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>(Reply via NG please)
>>>> Yes I have one and it squeaks. It's a PITA.
>>>
>>>Drill, thread, insert grease nipple...??

>> Well maybe, but it's the most expensive on the market, so you'd expect it
>> to be right. Having said that when I came to mount it I found the outer
>> skin of my rear cross member did not have the standard holes drilled.
>> (50th Anniv with NAS style rear step/towbar) In fact I found 3 different
>> layouts looking at other Defenders. The Mantec relies on the holes for the
>> rear right grab handle. I just had to line it up from the top bracket as
>> best I could.
>> --
>> hugh
>> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

>
>


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Old 08-01-2005, 17:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:22:28 +0100, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>
>I'm not - am I supposed to?
>
>Hugh


No! Mantec told me the moving parts were maintenance free, so I've
never lubed them.

Neil


>In message <QT6He.43910$dN6.33706@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Richard
><NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> writes
>>I've had one for a few years and it doesnt squeak. What are you lubricating
>>it with ?
>>Richard


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Old 08-02-2005, 02:01   #10 (permalink)
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Neil <donotuse@thisaddy.com> wrote in
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> No! Mantec told me the moving parts were maintenance free, so I've
> never lubed them.


Built in obsolescence?

Sounds a bit like those claims, "Guaranteed for life". Whose life??

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