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Old 12-23-2005, 14:01   #1 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Time to be worried...

... be very worried

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece

[Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the Police
National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35
million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and
precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning
satellites.

"What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in
the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular
location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly
important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.

The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or
trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be
of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in
a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit
further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle.
You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley
explained. [End quote]

So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some known
criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of interest" to
the police.

Jeez.

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Old 12-23-2005, 14:01   #2 (permalink)
Dougal
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Re: Time to be worried...

Richard Brookman wrote:

> ... be very worried
>
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
>
> [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the Police
> National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35
> million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and
> precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning
> satellites.
>
> "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in
> the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular
> location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly
> important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.
>
> The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or
> trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be
> of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in
> a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit
> further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle.
> You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley
> explained. [End quote]
>
> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some known
> criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of interest" to
> the police.
>
> Jeez.


Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all right.
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Old 12-23-2005, 14:01   #3 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Re: Time to be worried...

....and Dougal spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> ... be very worried
>>
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
>>
>> [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the
>> Police National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the
>> details of 35 million number-plate "reads" per day. These will
>> include time, date and precise location, with camera sites monitored
>> by global positioning satellites.
>>
>> "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle
>> was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a
>> particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime
>> scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley
>> said. The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars,
>> vans
>> or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already
>> known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will
>> drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back
>> in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily
>> interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving
>> with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained. [End quote]
>>
>> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with
>> some known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone
>> "of interest" to the police.
>>
>> Jeez.

>
> Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all
> right.


Thank God for that. I was beginning to think we were living in a
dictatorship for a minute. Must have all been a dream.

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Old 12-23-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
Lee_D
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Re: Time to be worried...

Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
>>> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with
>>> some known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone
>>> "of interest" to the police.
>>>
>>> Jeez.

>>
>> Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all
>> right.

>
> Thank God for that. I was beginning to think we were living in a
> dictatorship for a minute. Must have all been a dream.


I'm sure there are a few people of late on this news group who would welcome
the unleashing of this technology. Nothing to fear here, though they may
catch me sneaking home ten minutes early followed by a convoy of similarly
minded bretheren.

Lee


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Old 12-23-2005, 16:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Time to be worried...

Lee_D <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>>>> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with
>>>> some known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone
>>>> "of interest" to the police.
>>>>
>>>> Jeez.
>>>
>>> Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all
>>> right.

>>
>> Thank God for that. I was beginning to think we were living in a
>> dictatorship for a minute. Must have all been a dream.

>
> I'm sure there are a few people of late on this news group who would
> welcome the unleashing of this technology. Nothing to fear here,
> though they may catch me sneaking home ten minutes early followed by
> a convoy of similarly minded bretheren.
>
> Lee


stop press....

It has just occured to me they may read our next meet as an Invasion via the
back door... best send'em an invite too!

Lee


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Old 12-24-2005, 01:01   #6 (permalink)
Larry
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Re: Time to be worried...

Which will be very useful if someone nicks my landie,

As for crims driving with me, they'll be the ones stuck behind trying to
overtake I suspect as I crawl up a hill at 20 mph


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"Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:41381lF1d6rgfU1@individual.net...
> ... be very worried
>
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
>
> [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the Police
> National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35
> million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and
> precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning
> satellites.
>
> "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in
> the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular
> location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes.

Particularly
> important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.
>
> The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or
> trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to

be
> of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere

in
> a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit
> further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle.
> You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley
> explained. [End quote]
>
> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some

known
> criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of interest" to
> the police.
>
> Jeez.
>
> --
> Rich
> ==============================
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> S2a 88" SW
> Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
>
>



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Old 12-24-2005, 01:01   #7 (permalink)
Derry Argue
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Re: Time to be worried...

Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in
news:DaCdnSqjLLxW9jHeRVnyrw@eclipse.net.uk:

> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> ... be very worried
>>
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
>>
>> [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the
>> Police National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the
>> details of 35 million number-plate "reads" per day. These will
>> include time, date and precise location, with camera sites monitored
>> by global positioning satellites.
>>
>> "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle
>> was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a
>> particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime
>> scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley
>> said.
>>
>> The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans
>> or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already
>> known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will
>> drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back
>> in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested
>> in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the
>> stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained. [End quote]
>>
>> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some
>> known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of
>> interest" to the police.
>>
>> Jeez.

>
> Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all
> right.


And how long DOES it take to change a number plate? But I don't expect
that has occurred to the little dears...

Derry
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Time to be worried...


"Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:41381lF1d6rgfU1@individual.net...
> ... be very worried
>
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
>
> [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the Police
> National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35
> million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and
> precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning
> satellites.
>
> "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in
> the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular
> location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes.
> Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.
>
> The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or
> trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to
> be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive
> somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy
> to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen
> vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr
> Whiteley explained. [End quote]
>
> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some
> known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of
> interest" to the police.
>

I think you only become 'of interest' when you travel the same route as the
BMW for some time. To follow up every single vehicle that the crims have
passed on their journey would be nigh on impossible.

Of course, now they have made this info public, the crims will avoid
travelling the same route back from a crime, and will all be running false
plates!


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Old 12-24-2005, 03:01   #9 (permalink)
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In message <doj3rb$g7u$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
"SimonJ" <me@mine.net> wrote:

>
> "Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:41381lF1d6rgfU1@individual.net...
> > ... be very worried
> >
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece
> >
> > [Quote:] By next March a central database installed alongside the Police
> > National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35
> > million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and
> > precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning
> > satellites.
> >
> > "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in
> > the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular
> > location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes.
> > Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.
> >
> > The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or
> > trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to
> > be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive
> > somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy
> > to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen
> > vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr
> > Whiteley explained. [End quote]
> >
> > So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with some
> > known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone "of
> > interest" to the police.
> >

> I think you only become 'of interest' when you travel the same route as the
> BMW for some time. To follow up every single vehicle that the crims have
> passed on their journey would be nigh on impossible.
>
> Of course, now they have made this info public, the crims will avoid
> travelling the same route back from a crime,
> and will all be running false plates!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Which is a dead giveaway that they are worth a look at!

>
>


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Old 12-24-2005, 03:01   #10 (permalink)
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Lee_D wrote:
> Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>>>> So I'm driving up the M4 and I happen to be passed by a BMW with
>>>> some known criminals in. That makes me, not a suspect, but someone
>>>> "of interest" to the police.
>>>>
>>>> Jeez.
>>>
>>> Ah, but it's only for our own good! Tone says so - so it must be all
>>> right.

>>
>> Thank God for that. I was beginning to think we were living in a
>> dictatorship for a minute. Must have all been a dream.

>
> I'm sure there are a few people of late on this news group who would
> welcome the unleashing of this technology. Nothing to fear here,
> though they may catch me sneaking home ten minutes early followed by
> a convoy of similarly minded bretheren.
>
> Lee


The Police caught the scum that shot the Policewoman here in Bradford a month or so ago with ANPR, so i
have no objections to things like this if they are proven to work for the intended use etc. My mate (an
inspector) did tell me that's what the 'ring of steel' was setup for here in Bradford! Seems to work when
it needs to.

The Police used to setup a ANPR trap outside our house, they used to catch all manner of tax dodgers,
uninsured & just scummy type drivers, most got carted off for 'other' things as well!! It used to provide
me some entertainment on a Sunday afternoon working on my fully legal & taxed cars!!

If you're doing nothing wrong, why worry.

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