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Old 11-27-2005, 12:02   #1 (permalink)
Gary Grainger
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Wanted:: Advice for first time Disco buyer

Hi,
I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never
owned a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or
knowledge. I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find)
when looking at a Discovery.
Thanks in advance
G
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Old 11-27-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Wanted:: Advice for first time Disco buyer

Gary Grainger wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never
> owned a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or
> knowledge. I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find)
> when looking at a Discovery.


Ok, first up let's define the simple bits. Do you want petrol or diesel
(or LPG), and manual or automatic transmission?


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Old 11-27-2005, 13:01   #3 (permalink)
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"Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Hi,
> I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never owned
> a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or knowledge.
> I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking at
> a Discovery.
> Thanks in advance
> G


being a relatively new owner myself i'll tell you what i looked for, i am
sure some of the more experienced owners will be along shortly with more
info. we spent about 3 months going around looking at discos before we found
what i felt was a gooden. if you look on ebay there is allot of rubbish
around but also a few bargains. the main area's i looked at were -
if its a four door, open the rear doors and check that there is no rot where
the wheel arch meets the body. this is a common problem
have a good look around the boot floor, inside and underneath for rot
have a good look in the wheel arches for holes or bad rust
check the chassis and basically the whole underneath for rust, take a torch
and get underneath.
have a look in the engine bay for any bad leaks of oil or coolant.
find out when the cambelt was last changed
ask about the service history if its been self maintained i would expect to
see receipts and some sort of record as to what was done when.
take a test drive and listen for any loud clonks, i say loud because i think
most landies have some clonk when you take up drive.
check that the gearbox changes ok, again you will find all the boxes are
notchy to some degree
when braking make sure it does not pull to one side.
i think ideally if you are really not sure try and take someone with you
that knows abit about landies.

if you do get one buy a few tools and have a go at doing some minor
servicing, its not that difficult and will save some cash too.

hope this helps

Paul.


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Old 11-27-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Wanted:: Advice for first time Disco buyer

EMB wrote:
> Gary Grainger wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never
>> owned a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or
>> knowledge. I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find)
>> when looking at a Discovery.

>
>
> Ok, first up let's define the simple bits. Do you want petrol or diesel
> (or LPG), and manual or automatic transmission?
>
>

Diesel, manual.
cheers
G
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Old 11-27-2005, 13:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Wanted:: Advice for first time Disco buyer

Paul wrote:
> "Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
> news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>>Hi,
>>I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never owned
>>a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or knowledge.
>>I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking at
>>a Discovery.
>>Thanks in advance
>>G

>
>
> being a relatively new owner myself i'll tell you what i looked for,


Snippage occurs
> hope this helps
>
> Paul.
>
>

Very helpful thanks!
cheers
G
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Old 11-27-2005, 15:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Wanted:: Advice for first time Disco buyer


"Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
news:438a1cb6_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Paul wrote:
> > "Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
> > news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never

owned
> >>a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or

knowledge.
> >>I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking

at
> >>a Discovery.
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>G


Watch out for off road damage by looking underneath too. The clutch on the
Disco I can be a little shuddery, especially at low engine revs, that's not
a fault. 1st to 2nd gear can be stiff when cold, again not a fault.
Watch out for stupid little electrical problems - bulbs blown in dash
lights, central locking iffy etc.
If it's a 300Tdi ensure it has had the cam belt modification done.
Check with the seller if it has had grease put in the swivel joints, if it
has it's maintenance free, if not the oil needs changing regularly, or
grease put in instead.
It should start on the button with a good puff of smoke out the back. The
smoke should clear immediately after starting.
They tend to leak via the sunroof and around the rear side windows. The
sunroof is easily fixed usually, dunno about the windows , mine have always
leaked and I've just put up with it.
Have a good look for radiator damage. At that age it may be about to fail
anyway but they are expensive as they are so huge.
I think mine was 250, other parts are often very reasonable, especially
from Beamends Ltd, you will often find Richard on this ng for parts advice.

TonyB



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Old 11-27-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
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> EMB wrote:
>> Gary Grainger wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never
>>> owned a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or
>>> knowledge. I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find)
>>> when looking at a Discovery.

>>
>>
>> Ok, first up let's define the simple bits. Do you want petrol or diesel
>> (or LPG), and manual or automatic transmission?
>>
>>

> Diesel, manual.
> cheers
> G


excuse the smirk, I said that and bought a v8 auto ;-)

Si


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Old 11-27-2005, 15:01   #8 (permalink)
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"Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Hi,
> I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never owned
> a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or knowledge.
> I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking at
> a Discovery.
> Thanks in advance
> G


Apart from rot and general mechanical condition, check for peeling dash as
this age was the peak of the problem, just after they introduced the
modified and retrograde dash design. Also check for the dreaded gearbox
output shaft spline wear. Also you may have a choice at N registration late
'95 when they changed the gearbox model. At around this time they had poor
hygiene at the machining stage and some boxes had much swarf left inside to
the detriment of life. These should have failed at a low mileage but you
never know. If everything works as it should then all should be OK so be
aware but don't worry about it..
The newer gearbox will have reverse opposite 5th while the perfectly good
older model had reverse on a dog leg to the left of 1st.

Huw


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Old 11-27-2005, 15:01   #9 (permalink)
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TonyB wrote:
> "Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
> news:438a1cb6_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>>Paul wrote:
>>
>>>"Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never

>
> owned
>
>>>>a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or

>
> knowledge.
>
>>>>I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking

>
> at
>
>>>>a Discovery.
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>G

>
>
> Watch out for off road damage by looking underneath too. The clutch on the
> Disco I can be a little shuddery, especially at low engine revs, that's not
> a fault. 1st to 2nd gear can be stiff when cold, again not a fault.
> Watch out for stupid little electrical problems - bulbs blown in dash
> lights, central locking iffy etc.
> If it's a 300Tdi ensure it has had the cam belt modification done.
> Check with the seller if it has had grease put in the swivel joints, if it
> has it's maintenance free, if not the oil needs changing regularly, or
> grease put in instead.
> It should start on the button with a good puff of smoke out the back. The
> smoke should clear immediately after starting.
> They tend to leak via the sunroof and around the rear side windows. The
> sunroof is easily fixed usually, dunno about the windows , mine have always
> leaked and I've just put up with it.
> Have a good look for radiator damage. At that age it may be about to fail
> anyway but they are expensive as they are so huge.
> I think mine was 250, other parts are often very reasonable, especially
> from Beamends Ltd, you will often find Richard on this ng for parts advice.
>
> TonyB
>
>
>

Many thanks, very useful!
Any idea about expected price? I'm currently considering a 1995 N reg
200Tdi with full service history and 109,000 miles, full test and 6
months tax, from a dealer (a 4x4 dealer, not a Land Rover dealer) What
should I pay?
cheers
Gary
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Old 11-27-2005, 16:01   #10 (permalink)
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Huw wrote:
> "Gary Grainger" <gary@featcovers.com> wrote in message
> news:438a1043_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>>Hi,
>>I'm seriously considering buying a N or M reg. Discovery. I've never owned
>>a Land Rover before, and I don't have any mechanical skills or knowledge.
>>I'd like to know what to look for (that a novice can find) when looking at
>>a Discovery.
>>Thanks in advance
>>G

>
>
> Apart from rot and general mechanical condition, check for peeling dash as
> this age was the peak of the problem, just after they introduced the
> modified and retrograde dash design. Also check for the dreaded gearbox
> output shaft spline wear. Also you may have a choice at N registration late
> '95 when they changed the gearbox model. At around this time they had poor
> hygiene at the machining stage and some boxes had much swarf left inside to
> the detriment of life. These should have failed at a low mileage but you
> never know. If everything works as it should then all should be OK so be
> aware but don't worry about it..
> The newer gearbox will have reverse opposite 5th while the perfectly good
> older model had reverse on a dog leg to the left of 1st.
>
> Huw
>
>

Again, very useful, thanks you!
cheers
G
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