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Old 01-07-2006, 18:01   #1 (permalink)
Sills
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Future of Jag X-Type?

I still go back and forth in trying to decide whether to remain loyal to
Volkswagen or to try a Jaguar X-Type sedan next time. Every time I see one
of those cars, I fall in love again.......But...Can anyone tell me if this
model is supposed to be discontinued in the near future? I've heard that
this is a possibility. Some "purists" say it's not a "real" Jaguar, but
merely a Ford Contour with fancy sheetmetal. It's probably the ONLY Jag I
could ever afford, save for a very used S-Type.....Any thoughts?

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Old 01-07-2006, 23:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

Sills wrote:

> I still go back and forth in trying to decide whether to remain loyal to
> Volkswagen or to try a Jaguar X-Type sedan next time. Every time I see one
> of those cars, I fall in love again.......But...Can anyone tell me if this
> model is supposed to be discontinued in the near future? I've heard that
> this is a possibility. Some "purists" say it's not a "real" Jaguar, but
> merely a Ford Contour with fancy sheetmetal. It's probably the ONLY Jag I
> could ever afford, save for a very used S-Type.....Any thoughts?


Ouch! What a comparison. What about getting a good older Jag when they
were more obviously Jags. "And a spare as well" some would say!

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Old 01-08-2006, 09:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

Its not to be discontinued
Most modern mass production cars are built on a floorpan that is used by
multiple models/makes, the specific manu then adds a bodyshell and various
mechanical tweaks etc - very basically put -


"Sills" <wpsills@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I still go back and forth in trying to decide whether to remain loyal to
> Volkswagen or to try a Jaguar X-Type sedan next time. Every time I see one
> of those cars, I fall in love again.......But...Can anyone tell me if this
> model is supposed to be discontinued in the near future? I've heard that
> this is a possibility. Some "purists" say it's not a "real" Jaguar, but
> merely a Ford Contour with fancy sheetmetal. It's probably the ONLY Jag I
> could ever afford, save for a very used S-Type.....Any thoughts?
>



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Old 01-08-2006, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

In article
<3b00e7019f4a570403fe8a0a5760dae6@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
"Sills" <wpsills@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I still go back and forth in trying to decide whether to remain loyal to
> Volkswagen or to try a Jaguar X-Type sedan next time. Every time I see one
> of those cars, I fall in love again.......But...Can anyone tell me if this
> model is supposed to be discontinued in the near future? I've heard that
> this is a possibility. Some "purists" say it's not a "real" Jaguar, but
> merely a Ford Contour with fancy sheetmetal. It's probably the ONLY Jag I
> could ever afford, save for a very used S-Type.....Any thoughts?
>


Wait till the all-wheel drive Ford Fusion is available, then go for
that. I am.

BTW, I still own my '71 XKE.

Al
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Old 01-08-2006, 13:01   #5 (permalink)
Seany
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

Ford Fusion?
I assume in the USA, the fusion is a decent sized high spec'd sedan (saloon)
It is far from that in the UK, far far from it!
I read somewhere (and I forget where, I read so much) that the X Type will
indeed be replaced, with a similar line up to the current models (engine
choice).
Most of the changes will be mechanical ... a Jag has to look like a Jag,
right?

The new Ford Mondeo (Contour in the USA?) is virtually production ready ....
due out in 2006/7 ... date to be confirmed.

The 'new' X Type will use the new floorpan on which the new Mondeo is built
(along with several other Ford?Mazda vehicles no doubt!)


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> In article
> <3b00e7019f4a570403fe8a0a5760dae6@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
> "Sills" <wpsills@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I still go back and forth in trying to decide whether to remain loyal to
>> Volkswagen or to try a Jaguar X-Type sedan next time. Every time I see
>> one
>> of those cars, I fall in love again.......But...Can anyone tell me if
>> this
>> model is supposed to be discontinued in the near future? I've heard that
>> this is a possibility. Some "purists" say it's not a "real" Jaguar, but
>> merely a Ford Contour with fancy sheetmetal. It's probably the ONLY Jag I
>> could ever afford, save for a very used S-Type.....Any thoughts?
>>

>
> Wait till the all-wheel drive Ford Fusion is available, then go for
> that. I am.
>
> BTW, I still own my '71 XKE.
>
> Al



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Old 01-09-2006, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

I too have heard that the X-Type may be discontinued.

The real question is, given your budget, when you open your garage,
what do you want to see there? Forget about the purists, the guys
who say to get a "good older Jag," etc. etc. etc. If you say that
every time you see an X-Type you "fall in love," then in sounds to me
like you've found your car. If you feel that way about a Ford Fusion,
then get one of those.

For me, it's my 2003 4.2 S-Type in British Racing Green. I love my
car. :)

In the US, BTW, three year old S-Types are easily available for less
than the price of a new X-Type. Buy for many people, there's nothing
quite like having a new car.

Follow your heart.

Michael W.
Chicago, IL, USA

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Old 01-09-2006, 02:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

The X Type is a restyled European Ford Mondeo. The S-Type is a restyled
American Ford Contour.

Who cares what the cars were based on. The Contour was a very nice car
for what a person paid, and the S Type is wonderful for what it is. The
S Type has a brilliant suspension and a free revving V6 that is quite
powerful. The X Type doesn't have the same quality of suspension that
the S Type has, but it has a nice interior and drives very well. Also
remember that the Mondeo won quite a few awards in Europe for being a
great car before it got turned into the X -type.

Don't get hung up on what the platform also underlies. What you are
buying is the car that you are seeing and driving and if you love it
then it's the car for you. There is a lot of good in the X type. If you
like it, go for it!

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Old 01-09-2006, 06:01   #8 (permalink)
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> The X Type is a restyled European Ford Mondeo. The S-Type is a
> restyled American Ford Contour.


Rubbish! Restyling means taking the existing car and changing its looks a
bit. The X-type uses a modified, *shortened* version of the Mondeo floor
pan, just picking up 6 "hard points". Some of the suspension and brake
parts from the Mondeo were used as well, but remember that this Mondeo
design never had AWD. The Ford Duratec V6 block was used as a *basis* for
the engine, but it was strengthened and the innards are all Jaguar-designed
(e.g. variable valve timing and variable length inlets). Aside from this
and a few switches and filters, the entire car is a totally fresh design.
The motoring press just ignored the facts for the sake of an eye-catching
headline - as usual - and it has stuck. I don't remember them criticising
the Audi TT because it is a re-bodied Golf, even when the car killed many of
the early owners because of its handling defects.

The S-Type shares far more components with the US car that was used as a
platform (I thought it was a Lincoln - surely not a Contour!) but the press
never went to town on that one either.

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Old 01-09-2006, 18:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

Gnomeface wrote:
> > The X Type is a restyled European Ford Mondeo. The S-Type is a
> > restyled American Ford Contour.

>
> Rubbish! Restyling means taking the existing car and changing its
> looks a bit. The X-type uses a modified, *shortened* version of the
> Mondeo floor pan, just picking up 6 "hard points". Some of the
> suspension and brake parts from the Mondeo were used as well, but
> remember that this Mondeo design never had AWD. The Ford Duratec V6
> block was used as a *basis* for the engine, but it was strengthened
> and the innards are all Jaguar-designed (e.g. variable valve timing
> and variable length inlets). Aside from this and a few switches and
> filters, the entire car is a totally fresh design. The motoring press
> just ignored the facts for the sake of an eye-catching headline - as
> usual - and it has stuck. I don't remember them criticising the Audi
> TT because it is a re-bodied Golf, even when the car killed many of
> the early owners because of its handling defects.
> The S-Type shares far more components with the US car that was used
> as a platform (I thought it was a Lincoln - surely not a Contour!)
> but the press never went to town on that one either.


If one is going to deride a car because of what it was "based on" then the
original Ford
Mustang was "just a Falcon".



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Old 01-09-2006, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Future of Jag X-Type?

I believe the S-Type was originally built on the Lincoln LS platform,
whatever that means. The LS is a nice car, but having driven them
quite a bit, I'd never think that one vehicle had anything to do with
the other. I also recall reading that in 2003 the S-Type was
"redesigned" with 70% of the components being new (vs the 2002).

Some folks like vintage cars, some like new ones. Some people prefer
old houses to new contruction. Personally, I prefer old houses and new
cars. :)

Michael W.
Chicago, IL, USA

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