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Old 04-15-2005, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
DAIMLERMAN
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Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

Good evening Gentlemen,

Anyone care to estimate how many examples of the aforementioned model
survive? Of these, how many are assumed to be driveable, or at least easily
restorable?

How much is one worth in immaculate original (albeit repainted) condition?



Thank you kindly,
- DAIMLERMAN
SI DD6 VdP, Majestic Major,
420/Sovereign, DS420x2


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Old 04-15-2005, 05:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

In 1972/1973 there were a total of 4,113 V12 5.3 liter jaguar/Daimler Series
1 saloons made. Of these, only 351 were the Daimler VanDen Plas long wheel
base. The majority, if not all these cars were Right Hand Drive. Given
that fact, the odds are they remained, for the most part, in the UK. Given
Jaguar's history (or lack of) when it came to undercoating/rustproofing in
addition to the terrible weather in the UK for motorcars, I would say the
attrition rate would be fairly high.
On the other hand, anyone buying a Daimler Double Six would, for the most
part probably take pretty good care of it.
So it is anyone's guess as to how many remain in existence.

As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12
Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a
Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP. Even
the Mark X comes in better at 10,000GBP. A surprise considering the low
number of vehicles built!! I would think the Daimler version to be about
the same.

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"DAIMLERMAN" <DAIMLER@HOMOSEXUAL.COM> wrote in message
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> Good evening Gentlemen,
>
> Anyone care to estimate how many examples of the aforementioned model
> survive? Of these, how many are assumed to be driveable, or at least

easily
> restorable?
>
> How much is one worth in immaculate original (albeit repainted) condition?
>
>
>
> Thank you kindly,
> - DAIMLERMAN
> SI DD6 VdP, Majestic Major,
> 420/Sovereign, DS420x2
>
>



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Old 04-15-2005, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

Thank you for the reply - is a 3.8S typically worth any less than a 3.4S
MOD? X versus 420G?




"webserve" <webserve00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In 1972/1973 there were a total of 4,113 V12 5.3 liter jaguar/Daimler

Series
> 1 saloons made. Of these, only 351 were the Daimler VanDen Plas long

wheel
> base. The majority, if not all these cars were Right Hand Drive. Given
> that fact, the odds are they remained, for the most part, in the UK. Given
> Jaguar's history (or lack of) when it came to undercoating/rustproofing in
> addition to the terrible weather in the UK for motorcars, I would say the
> attrition rate would be fairly high.
> On the other hand, anyone buying a Daimler Double Six would, for the most
> part probably take pretty good care of it.
> So it is anyone's guess as to how many remain in existence.
>
> As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12
> Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a
> Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP.

Even
> the Mark X comes in better at 10,000GBP. A surprise considering the low
> number of vehicles built!! I would think the Daimler version to be about
> the same.
>
> Webserve
>



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Old 04-15-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

webserve wrote:
> In 1972/1973 there were a total of 4,113 V12 5.3 liter jaguar/Daimler Series
> 1 saloons made. Of these, only 351 were the Daimler VanDen Plas long wheel
> base. The majority, if not all these cars were Right Hand Drive. Given
> that fact, the odds are they remained, for the most part, in the UK. Given
> Jaguar's history (or lack of) when it came to undercoating/rustproofing in
> addition to the terrible weather in the UK for motorcars, I would say the
> attrition rate would be fairly high.
> On the other hand, anyone buying a Daimler Double Six would, for the most
> part probably take pretty good care of it.
> So it is anyone's guess as to how many remain in existence.
>
> As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12
> Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a
> Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP. Even
> the Mark X comes in better at 10,000GBP. A surprise considering the low
> number of vehicles built!! I would think the Daimler version to be about
> the same.
>
> Webserve
>
>
> "DAIMLERMAN" <DAIMLER@HOMOSEXUAL.COM> wrote in message
> news:CQK7e.156$oa7.2856@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>
>>Good evening Gentlemen,
>>
>>Anyone care to estimate how many examples of the aforementioned model
>>survive? Of these, how many are assumed to be driveable, or at least

>
> easily
>
>>restorable?
>>
>>How much is one worth in immaculate original (albeit repainted) condition?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thank you kindly,
>>- DAIMLERMAN
>>SI DD6 VdP, Majestic Major,
>>420/Sovereign, DS420x2
>>
>>

>
>
>

Interesting price on the 420g
here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
paint and interior to go .
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

Please don't mis-understand -- I am NOT an authority on Jag prices. I just
looked up the prices from other sources.

Typically, a 3.8 S is worth more than a 3.4 S. The 3.8 engine for some
reason is the preferred motor. Personally, I like the 4.2 even better.
Most of these saloons are typically worth 10% more with MOD than with an
automatic.

In terms of the Mark X and the 420G -- they are pretty much the same car.
Again, I do like the 420G with the 4.2 liter engine and triple SUs, but in
terms of resale, they are pretty much the same.

Webserve

"300CE-24" <you@my.house> wrote in message
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> Thank you for the reply - is a 3.8S typically worth any less than a 3.4S
> MOD? X versus 420G?
>
>
>
>
> "webserve" <webserve00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:22d20$425f9b3a$452836d1$6684@ALLTEL.NET...
> > In 1972/1973 there were a total of 4,113 V12 5.3 liter jaguar/Daimler

> Series
> > 1 saloons made. Of these, only 351 were the Daimler VanDen Plas long

> wheel
> > base. The majority, if not all these cars were Right Hand Drive. Given
> > that fact, the odds are they remained, for the most part, in the UK.

Given
> > Jaguar's history (or lack of) when it came to undercoating/rustproofing

in
> > addition to the terrible weather in the UK for motorcars, I would say

the
> > attrition rate would be fairly high.
> > On the other hand, anyone buying a Daimler Double Six would, for the

most
> > part probably take pretty good care of it.
> > So it is anyone's guess as to how many remain in existence.
> >
> > As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12
> > Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a
> > Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP.

> Even
> > the Mark X comes in better at 10,000GBP. A surprise considering the low
> > number of vehicles built!! I would think the Daimler version to be

about
> > the same.
> >
> > Webserve
> >

>
>



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Old 04-15-2005, 09:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

Keep in mind that those were UK prices and for PRISTINE examples of the
motor car. Your saloon, like mine is only worth what you can get for it.
While Jaguar World lists the pristine 420 at 15,000GBP ($28,500USD), I doubt
I could muster $5,000USD for my re-built daily driver. I actually don't
care all that much as I would never sell it anyway. It is my feeling that
those prices are nearly twice the actual value!!

NADA lists as Pristine 1967 420 with an Automatic transmission at around
$16,500USD and I even think that may be high. There value for a pristine
1968 420G in pristine shape and an automatic transmission is about
$19,500USD.

Take it for what it is worth!!

Webserve

> Interesting price on the 420g
> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
> paint and interior to go .



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Old 04-15-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

webserve wrote:
> Keep in mind that those were UK prices and for PRISTINE examples of the
> motor car. Your saloon, like mine is only worth what you can get for it.
> While Jaguar World lists the pristine 420 at 15,000GBP ($28,500USD), I doubt
> I could muster $5,000USD for my re-built daily driver. I actually don't
> care all that much as I would never sell it anyway. It is my feeling that
> those prices are nearly twice the actual value!!
>
> NADA lists as Pristine 1967 420 with an Automatic transmission at around
> $16,500USD and I even think that may be high. There value for a pristine
> 1968 420G in pristine shape and an automatic transmission is about
> $19,500USD.
>
> Take it for what it is worth!!
>
> Webserve
>
>
>>Interesting price on the 420g
>> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
>> paint and interior to go .

>
>
>

considering what it's costing sounds about right..
nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..
nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the
little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

are you in melbourne?



> >
> >
> >>Interesting price on the 420g
> >> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
> >> paint and interior to go .

> >
> >
> >

> considering what it's costing sounds about right..
> nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..
> nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the
> little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished



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Old 04-15-2005, 10:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

I am from the eastern US and I believe that atec is from the western US.

My Grandfather came from Prahram if that is any help!!

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> are you in melbourne?
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >>Interesting price on the 420g
> > >> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
> > >> paint and interior to go .
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > considering what it's costing sounds about right..
> > nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..
> > nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the
> > little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished

>
>



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Old 04-15-2005, 10:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Series One Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas

Unfortunately, these cars, especially the 420 and 420G series are not worth
very much -- comparatively. They are regarded as the black sheep of the
saloon line although they are finally starting to come into their own. By
the time you are done sinking all that money into it, you will be lucky if
you can pull 1/2 of what you spent back out. You must to the restoration
because you love the car. To do it as an investment is a losing
proposition!!

When I re-built my 420 I refused to find myself in the future placing a
"will take 1/2 what I have into it" ad in order to sell the car.

Webserve




"atec" <atec77@XXXhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> webserve wrote:
> > Keep in mind that those were UK prices and for PRISTINE examples of the
> > motor car. Your saloon, like mine is only worth what you can get for

it.
> > While Jaguar World lists the pristine 420 at 15,000GBP ($28,500USD), I

doubt
> > I could muster $5,000USD for my re-built daily driver. I actually don't
> > care all that much as I would never sell it anyway. It is my feeling

that
> > those prices are nearly twice the actual value!!
> >
> > NADA lists as Pristine 1967 420 with an Automatic transmission at around
> > $16,500USD and I even think that may be high. There value for a

pristine
> > 1968 420G in pristine shape and an automatic transmission is about
> > $19,500USD.
> >
> > Take it for what it is worth!!
> >
> > Webserve
> >
> >
> >>Interesting price on the 420g
> >> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..
> >> paint and interior to go .

> >
> >
> >

> considering what it's costing sounds about right..
> nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..
> nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the
> little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished



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