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Old 05-11-2004, 22:07   #1 (permalink)
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LPG install - Whats the legals?

Hi guys...

Im starting to feel the pinch of rising fuel prices and having to drive a
fair distance to work everyday its not good on my bank account.
Was wondernig what the legals are (qld) with regards to buying a gas
system from the wreckers and getting it installed? Will installers use
2nd hand items??

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Old 05-11-2004, 22:29   #2 (permalink)
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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

if you source the tank (provided it not 10 y.o) it will not need to be tested, the convertor, tank brackets<--craddle, a few solenoids, the afl valve and computer would all be OK 2nd hand.. I dare say the installers would want to use new service lines and wiring but other than that it could save you 5 or 6 hundred dollars on the kit but maybe an extra $100 on the labour side of the install
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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

Ok, so 2nd is good... what will i need?? What options do i have with the tank?
I have an EB wagon.. is it possible to get the tank under the car???

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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

I've done most of my gas system my self. I bought all the stuff from a wrecker for around $100 and made a new wiring loom myself. I got a second hand tank that's in date and am getting it installed professionally with brand new lines for around $220 by a certified installer.

In wagons the installers usually cut the tank in half, welded it shut and then put a standard size tank right next to it. These days I think they use these 3 funky little tanks.

You will need:
-Converter
-Mixer
-Plumbing
-Wiring
-Gauge
-Tank
-Lines
-Fuel lock solenoid
-Processor (on some systems)

I recommend IMPCO brand systems

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In wagons you can also get one that sits in the wheel well and you mount the spare on the side.
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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

can someone PLEASE tell me if they know of any tanks that take the space of the factory petrol tank, i could settle for a spare wheel donut tank but i'd prefer something else... anyone??
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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

Thanks for that sunny...
Could you please explain what the converter and mixer are?? Which one of them is
that metal round thing that sits next to the engine??

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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

the convertor is the round thing bolted somewhere near the shock tower, it has a copper line running into in(service line) with a 16mm diameter rubber hose coming out and heading towards the throttle body.. That gas hose is attached to the mixer, and the mixer lives inside your air intake hose butted up very close to the throttle body

So in short the big thing is the convertor, it changes the state of LPG for you and the mixer is hidden within your intake plumbing and disperses the LPG evenly with the incoming air ready for combustion
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Re: LPG install - Whats the legals?

complex mixer setups are slightly different.. but ill leave that for someone else to explain, as i dont quite get them :)
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Yeah you can get some complex mixers. I have a Impco 225 mixer. It's the one used in factory VX/VY Commodore gas setups.

It has 2 fuel control valves (FCV's) on it which are wired up to a little ECU (IMPCO Commander Fuel Processor). It controls the vacuum to the mixer through signals from the tacho and HEGO sensor. You can also manually adjust the fuel mixtures and idle from this mixer.

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