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Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

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Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

Does anybody know how many TE 50 Series 2 were made,in my opinion they were a better vehical than the T3.The reason being the T2 had Fairmont dash with climate control while the T3 reverted back to the basic XR instruments.
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Does anybody know how many TE 50 Series 2 were made,in my opinion they were a better vechical than the T3.The reason being the T2 had Fairmont dash with climate control while the T3 reverted back to the basic XR instruments.
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Thats why i chose a TS50 in the T3 range, was originally going to have a TE. But as for saying the T2 was a better car, hmmm, have you driven a T3 Stroker, mate i would have gone without the Climate control and dash for that

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Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

GTP 320: not too sure what you mean...but just to clarify...the T3 TS50 does have the fairmont interior (and c/control)...the T3 TE50 is based on the XR interior (and air con only). I agree with TS50 though, (imo) I would choose a T3 TE50 over any of the T2's...the T3 engine is a beaut...
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GTP 320: not too sure what you mean...but just to clarify...the T3 TS50 does have the fairmont interior (and c/control)...the T3 TE50 is based on the XR interior (and air con only). I agree with TS50 though, (imo) I would choose a T3 TE50 over any of the T2's...the T3 engine is a beaut...
Obviously my sentiments exactly. I haven't driven a T2 but looking at both cars on paper the T3 without a doubt is a better package. I have to aggree that my TE50 is a little bare bones on the inside. But i think that the full colour coded leather interior and Momo wheel and shifter make up for the std xr8 dash/aircon.

No offence intended to T2 owners, it's just that Tickford designed and engineered a better sports sedan in the T3 and gave the aging 302 windsor a great send off.

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Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

That is right, mechanically the T3 is far superior to the T2.

Here is a reminder for those that have forgoten about What Goes into the T3 'Stroker' Engine.

The 5.6-litre V8 is built at Tickford using a tried and tested "Windsor"
block now boasting an all-new crankshaft, ported cylinder head with high
performance springs and valves, billet machined connecting rods, lightweight
pistons with fully floating pins, a revised camshaft profile, an 82 mm
diameter throttle body, three-piece high flow inlet manifold and conical air
cleaner with dedicated mass air flow (MAF) sensor.

Crankshaft:
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The 5.0-litre crankshaft provides a 76.2mm (3.00 inch) stroke. The new
crankshaft extends the stroke to 86.4mm (3.4 inch), increasing engine
capacity to 5.6 litres. A girdle is fitted, interconnecting all of the
main bearing caps to improve crankshaft and cylinder block rigidity and
cope with the higher stress conditions of a longer stroke.

Connecting Rod:
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As the stroke of the crankshaft is increased, it is essential the connecting
rod and piston still remain within the bore dimensions of the carryover
5.0-litre block. As a result, the connecting rod is a new part with the big
end to little end bore center distance revised and a new piston to suit.
Additionally, the new connecting rod is an H section part machined from a
billet for increased strength to cater for power increases.

Piston:
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A new short skirt piston is used to provide clearance to the new connecting
rod and is a low friction, high load design to take the increased gas
pressures. Compression ratio is 9.6:1

Once the increased capacity and performance potential has been achieved
through "stroking", it then becomes necessary to match other components
to the equivalent performance capability. This requires improving the
airflow capacity of the intake and exhaust systems:

Camshaft:
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For every revolution the engine now consumes 12 per cent more charge air
because of the increase in stroke. The camshaft has been revised to increase
valve opening duration, resulting in better airflow management into and out
of the cylinders.

Cylinder Heads:
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These are the same heads as used in the 220 kW engine with modified
combustion chambers, increased valve sizes and 1.7:1 ratio roller rockers.

Intake Manifold:
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A new manifold increases airflow into the cylinder heads

Air cleaner, throttle body and intake ducting:
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Increased flow capability has been achieved by the adoption of a Mustang
style air cleaner with larger ducting and a significant increase in throttle
body bore (up from 70 mm in the 220 kW engine to 82 mm in this application).

Exhaust System:
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The ceramic coated 4-1 tubular headers and 1.7-litre catalysts provide sufficient
airflow capacity to match this engine's output.

Synthetic engine oil and an extra engine oil cooler ensure the engine is
protected in all operating conditions.

Grabbed straight of a website I found about the T3...
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Oh I forgot to mention the power figures..

250kW, 500Nm
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What GT320 meant was that the interior of both the series I and II TE's were based on the fairmont, wheras the T3 TE's were based on the XR interior.

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Less weight, More power = More fun
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Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

Gee i certainly caused a good discussion point hear,in fact TS50 is right by what i ment.I do realize that the T3 had more power with the stroker,but my TE50 T2 that i had had some mods and the output was 240kw.
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