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You're asking the GT to be something it was never designed to be. The GT is the ultimate refinement of the equivelant Falcon, not just a bodykit and a few engine mods.
Uhh... but thats what the EL GT turned out as. Ford market the GT as their high performance model, it's their fairlanes that they market as a "refined luxury drive".

If they are going to make a GT, they should have some balls and make it right. Smooth idle be damned and their "premium brakes and suspension" should be tossed in the bin.

Check out Dick Johnsons Racing BA Falcons... 6 caliper front brakes, solid(but still smooth) ride and 320+ kw which makes up for the BA's fat weight.

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Uhh... but thats what the EL GT turned out as. Ford market the GT as their high performance model, it's their fairlanes that they market as a "refined luxury drive".

If they are going to make a GT, they should have some balls and make it right. Smooth idle be damned and their "premium brakes and suspension" should be tossed in the bin.

Check out Dick Johnsons Racing BA Falcons... 6 caliper front brakes, solid(but still smooth) ride and 320+ kw which makes up for the BA's fat weight.
You come in to a thread that relates to the EL GT and do nothing but bag it out (how lame) when clearly you know nothing about the car but what the critics said at the time, at the time it was it was far better than any Falcon available.
Then your next line got me thinking.... build a GT thats fast but has no brakes of suspension? Sorry I'll pass on than one.
Ohhh and 320+kw lol.... got nothing on my cars.

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I guess it just comes down to what you want from the car. Fordfanatic, I think you like to think of the GT's of old with just raw guts and speed. Some people prefer sheer horsepower, others want a refined package.

Tickford has never been the one to go for pure horsepower, alot of their cars have been all round packages, compared to some HSV's like the GTS-R, which was a stripped out Commodore with alot of horsies.

Even the current GT is not as powerful as HSV's flagship... but any magazine review will tell you how good the whole package is, despite not being the fastest in a straight line.

No GT since the days of the old skool cars (Ie: EB and newer) have been about straight line speed... they are a refined touring car, not a stripped out V8 Supercar.

The DJR cars appeal to a different market than the GT, which is fine too. I don't mind seeing some Fords taking fame from the Holdens! But the GT was never designed to be what the DJR car is, so it's hard to have expected it to be that. Even if thats what some people wished the current GT's were.

And MR GT is correct in that the EL GT was the premium Falcon you could buy from Ford at the time, whether you wanted the refinement or not.

Well, bringing it back to the topic of the thread, Firefox I hope you end up with the gearbox setup you're happy with first go.

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