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Would you like to see the return of the 2L Super tourers?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Only as a support race to the V8's

    Votes: 12 41.4%
  • No, but replace them with a ricer series

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • NO.

    Votes: 8 27.6%
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Can anyone tell me what has happened to the 2 Litre touring car series in Aussie?
Is there still a series over there or has it been killed off completely?
 

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As far as I know the 2 Litre series has died. Once Channel 7 pulled the pin the series died.

The cars (Super & Future tourers) are still of course recognised catagories but if promoters don't invite them to meetings....

They did race at a couple of "Power Tour" (truck) events. In Vic Winton and Calder, not sure of any others. Will have to wait and see if they get regular outings.

Press release from TOCA:




** News ** Joint statement from TOCA and Seven


TOCA Australia Relinquishes Management Rights To Super Touring Championship
SEPTEMBER 27, 2001:

TOCA Australia today announced that it would not proceed with the organisation of the 2001-02 Australian Super Touring Championship and has relinquished its rights to manage the category in Australia. "The Board has considered all matters in reaching this very difficult decision," said TOCA Australia Chief Executive Kelvin O’Reilly "We regret that this decision has had to be made but the surrounding circumstances and the commercial climate make it unavoidable."

"As there are numerous cars that are eligible for competition in both Super Touring and Future Touring specification the field is now open for the governing body CAMS or another category manager to organise these events."

Power Tour organiser Nick Ebbeck last week extended an invitation to the Super Touring/Future Touring teams and Commodore Cup competitors to race at their next event, which is scheduled for Winton on 21 October.

Ends.

No further statements will be provided






www.TOCA.com.au
 

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Personally I preferred the variety that the Super Tourers provided, in its heyday. Also was a lot more comfortable day out (probably because of lower crowd numbers) but typically a more knowledgable crowd.
It's a shame that the V8s & Super Tourers couldn't work together to provide two classes at Bathurst at least.
 

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Tickford Ruled; FPV Rocks
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Can't say I minded the 2 litres. I'd watch it whenever it was on the tele cos i adore anything that involves car racing. But I wouldn't mind seeing the cateogory return in some form.
 

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Shhh, we're hunting Lions
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The problem with the super tourers category is that its lacks the passion that V8 supercars has, your Ford v Holden rivalry.
Maybe they should uses ricers, then the ricer brigade may get involved and actually attend the races.:s5
 

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goooone
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The carsdidn't excite people as they had only as much power as a current stock XR8 there was not the speed of the V8s & there was not any real class drivers so it was like watching amatuer hour
I am in away sad to see them go as any motorsport on tele is good but they tried to compete against V8s rather then relising they were only ever going to be successful as a support catagory also the lack of factory support meant the cars were getting old.
 

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Hey,

The biggest problem with the 2Litre series, both here and overseas, was the fantastic cost of the cars. If you look to the BTCC, quite a numberoffactoryteamshavepulled simply due to the cost of racing. And while the cars look really, and I mean really good - forerunners to the V8 Supercar style - they are too expensive for the cost.

I'd like to see the supersedans (I think thatswhat they're called) - the sillouette has to be basically factory, but you can flare to your hearts content and run a midmount motor - support the V8s. The sheer number of different body styles makes for interesting racing. Alfas, Escorts, Falcons, Commodores, SAABs, etc. Except the supersedans would probably run faster times.

I'd also like to see a Nascar-style spaceframe for the V8s. That way it wouldnt necessitate building a whole new car to update the shell. But I suppose you'd end up with fiberglass jellymould cars that only look slightly like the real car, and Ford could build a FWD and call it a Falcon and still race it in the V8s. On second thought, I suppose thats not the greatest idea.

L8a,
Prud
 

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sports sedans, yeah!

and where are the sports sedans...

I suppose this remains essentially an amateur driver-builder type class, and probably should remains so lest it get too expensive and proscriptive ...

but V8 supercars are never going to provide a stepping stone to a local GT class ala LeMans which is what we need for technical challenge ...
 

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RACE
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I think it would be good to see them back in a support race for every round. Honestly they didn't do much for me but it was still interesting to watch.
 

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I'm not really sure if we need them. GTP and Nations cup is great. The 2 Litres were a bit boring, It's like watching 2 teams play(eg Rugby,Afl) which you dont barrick for, you wacth it becasue you like the sport, where as V8 Supecars you wacth it becase YOUR team is playing. I hope I made sense there.
 

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I really enjoyed the 2L Touring Cars. The racing was usually interesting and it was a change from the V8's where you usually just support a particular make, not a driver.
 

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Different thought

I thought the ricer would be good. Against trend again!
Like the series Waine Gardener is in,in Japan.Or was? They would have heaps of money to throw at them,or enough cars atleast..

But not in competition to the v8's.Rather compliment them..
 
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