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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote
> I was telling
> my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
> program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.


The EXACT same thing happened with the 1970 Sportsroof Mustang he did at the
SEMA show. A couple months later it was for sale on EBay also.
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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
In article <[email protected]>, 66 6F HCS wrote:
>
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote
>> I was telling
>> my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
>> program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.

>
> The EXACT same thing happened with the 1970 Sportsroof Mustang he did at the
> SEMA show. A couple months later it was for sale on EBay also.


As time goes on I've become more and more suspect of the overhauln show.

The last episode I saw was the biggest beater or something like that.
They have no concept of a beater. What they picked was some unfinished
modification project car from texas. Nothing wrong with it, just that the
mods hadn't been finished.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
[email protected] (Brent P) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, 66 6F HCS wrote:
>>
>> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> I was telling
>>> my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
>>> program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.

>>
>> The EXACT same thing happened with the 1970 Sportsroof Mustang he did
>> at the SEMA show. A couple months later it was for sale on EBay also.

>
> As time goes on I've become more and more suspect of the overhauln
> show.
>
> The last episode I saw was the biggest beater or something like that.
> They have no concept of a beater. What they picked was some unfinished
> modification project car from texas. Nothing wrong with it, just that
> the mods hadn't been finished.


The wheels on that Foosemobile are absolutely horrid. Personally, I'd
prefer either of the fastbacks behind the Foosemobile.
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
They have names for women that are that stupid.
I can't think of a single one that is flattering.
What a F-ing idiot.

My hubs wrote to them to do Shug when I had her. See , the chose the wrong
gal! if they ahd done mine, she would be parked here in garage instead of at
someone else's house

What a waste. I hope she gets the 10 year old minivan that she deserves.

KJK


"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...Z6236QQitemZ4606307332QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
:
:
: Chip Foose built this for a lady on the show Overhaulin'. I was telling
: my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
: program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.
:
: Wish I had the 50k. that is one sweet ride.
:
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Reality shows... gotta love 'em.....

I' in the middle of a major home reno.... think Mike Holmes or the cutesy
guy with the *** tag on his bottom lip will come and help me? I have several
friends with old Mopars that could use more money than they have to
spare.... will Foose and his eye candy ever come to jerk their chains? I
think there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that we will never see....
but if we insist on watching it, the sponsors will insist on sponsoring it.

"There's one born every minute...." : P T Barnum.


"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...Z6236QQitemZ4606307332QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
>
>
> Chip Foose built this for a lady on the show Overhaulin'. I was telling
> my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
> program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.
>
> Wish I had the 50k. that is one sweet ride.
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
In article <%[email protected]>, KJ.Kate wrote:

> My hubs wrote to them to do Shug when I had her. See , the chose the wrong
> gal! if they ahd done mine, she would be parked here in garage instead of at
> someone else's house


I don't think they go more than 5 blocks from whatever CA shop they are
using. Ever notice how they don't even come to places like chicago?
How when a car has the most mild of surface rust they proclaim what poor
condition it is in?

I like to read old car publications from the UK. They know what real rust
is. They deal in detail with actual problems, they show the rust damage.
The cars featured are often drivers. I mean real drivers that go out rain
or shine.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
"Brent P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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: In article <%[email protected]>, KJ.Kate wrote:
:
: > My hubs wrote to them to do Shug when I had her. See , the chose the
wrong
: > gal! if they ahd done mine, she would be parked here in garage instead
of at
: > someone else's house
:
: I don't think they go more than 5 blocks from whatever CA shop they are
: using. Ever notice how they don't even come to places like chicago?
: How when a car has the most mild of surface rust they proclaim what poor
: condition it is in?
:
: I like to read old car publications from the UK. They know what real rust
: is. They deal in detail with actual problems, they show the rust damage.
: The cars featured are often drivers. I mean real drivers that go out rain
: or shine.
:

I agree, but there are only so many hours to do a show like that I guess and
if they are at all normal, NO ONE really WANTS to tackle a real nasty
project.
I imagine that stealing one a couple of thousand miles away would be a LOT
more complicated.

Hmmmmmmm I wonder if they would do my Libby. "Ohhhhhh Honeyyyyyyyyyy... tell
em to steal THIS one!"

*grin*

KJK
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Some of the things they do I would flip a bitch over.
I saw them do one truck where they chopped the top on it and slammed it.
If they did that to one of my rigs shots would be fired.

Maybe that's how the gal felt when they did her Mustang, Could be she liked
it the way it was.

KJK

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"Jim Warman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
: Reality shows... gotta love 'em.....
:
: I' in the middle of a major home reno.... think Mike Holmes or the cutesy
: guy with the *** tag on his bottom lip will come and help me? I have
several
: friends with old Mopars that could use more money than they have to
: spare.... will Foose and his eye candy ever come to jerk their chains? I
: think there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that we will never see....
: but if we insist on watching it, the sponsors will insist on sponsoring
it.
:
: "There's one born every minute...." : P T Barnum.
:
:
: "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]
: >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...Z6236QQitemZ4606307332QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
: >
: >
: > Chip Foose built this for a lady on the show Overhaulin'. I was telling
: > my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
: > program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.
: >
: > Wish I had the 50k. that is one sweet ride.
: >
:
:
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Kate, I've been married over 30 years..... I don't think women can be happy
with anything...... 8^)


"KJ.Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Some of the things they do I would flip a bitch over.
> I saw them do one truck where they chopped the top on it and slammed it.
> If they did that to one of my rigs shots would be fired.
>
> Maybe that's how the gal felt when they did her Mustang, Could be she
> liked
> it the way it was.
>
> KJK
>
> .
> "Jim Warman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> : Reality shows... gotta love 'em.....
> :
> : I' in the middle of a major home reno.... think Mike Holmes or the
> cutesy
> : guy with the *** tag on his bottom lip will come and help me? I have
> several
> : friends with old Mopars that could use more money than they have to
> : spare.... will Foose and his eye candy ever come to jerk their chains? I
> : think there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that we will never
> see....
> : but if we insist on watching it, the sponsors will insist on sponsoring
> it.
> :
> : "There's one born every minute...." : P T Barnum.
> :
> :
> : "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]
> : >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...Z6236QQitemZ4606307332QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
> : >
> : >
> : > Chip Foose built this for a lady on the show Overhaulin'. I was
> telling
> : > my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
> : > program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.
> : >
> : > Wish I had the 50k. that is one sweet ride.
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Around 1/24/2006 10:56 AM, Paul wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...Z6236QQitemZ4606307332QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
>
>
> Chip Foose built this for a lady on the show Overhaulin'. I was telling
> my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
> program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.


It sounds like she loved the car as it was before the show, but got all
paranoid about devaluing it afterwards. Seriously: Mobil 1 changed every
1,000 miles? What a waste...

> Wish I had the 50k. that is one sweet ride.


I agree; it's one of the very few vehicles I've seen on the various "car
makeover" shows that I wouldn't be embarrassed to own and drive.


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/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \
| My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang |
| RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm |
\ ~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~ /
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
One thing that may also "force" people to sell these Foose Cars is that the
owner is responsible for the Federal, State and Local Income Taxes on the
vehicle. For someone with a family this might be a pretty big chunk of
Money depending on what all they do, and what value is put on the parts
used. I have wondered about the 1967 Chevelle in the Mother's wax
commercial, did chip foose buy it back, or did they use it in the
commercial to help pay for the taxes on the car.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Around 1/27/2006 6:47 AM, Craig Shaffer wrote:

> One thing that may also "force" people to sell these Foose Cars is that the
> owner is responsible for the Federal, State and Local Income Taxes on the
> vehicle.


No kidding?

The impression these shows seem to give is that someone (the producers?)
is doing all the work out of the kindness of their hearts, not to
mention wallets. As in completely gratis to the so-called victim.

I can just imagine: "Surprise! We stole your car, modded the heck out of
it in ways you never wanted, added a stereo that will make your bladder
and bowels empty, your heart fibrillate, and your brain liquefy. We also
made it all look like someone puked on a couple of pop cans, inside and
out. But wait, there's more: [dramatic pause] Here's the bill! [stunned
silence] (Come on, pretend you're happy with the car, just for the
cameras!)"



On a tangent, regarding Monster Garage: Each episode has a set spending
limit, and they seem to stick with it - with one freakin' huge loop hole
known as "Freebies." I have occasionally wondered how much, if anything,
the "Freebies" cost Jesse James out of pocket...



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/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \
| My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang |
| RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm |
\ ~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~ /
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
In article <[email protected]>, Garth Almgren wrote:
> Around 1/27/2006 6:47 AM, Craig Shaffer wrote:
>
>> One thing that may also "force" people to sell these Foose Cars is that the
>> owner is responsible for the Federal, State and Local Income Taxes on the
>> vehicle.

>
> No kidding?
>
> The impression these shows seem to give is that someone (the producers?)
> is doing all the work out of the kindness of their hearts, not to
> mention wallets. As in completely gratis to the so-called victim.
>
> I can just imagine: "Surprise! We stole your car, modded the heck out of
> it in ways you never wanted, added a stereo that will make your bladder
> and bowels empty, your heart fibrillate, and your brain liquefy. We also
> made it all look like someone puked on a couple of pop cans, inside and
> out. But wait, there's more: [dramatic pause] Here's the bill! [stunned
> silence] (Come on, pretend you're happy with the car, just for the
> cameras!)"


That's the tax law. If they over value the mods it can really suck. There
are quite a few prizes where by the tax laws the people who 'won' them
ended up being told they owed more in taxes than buying the prize
outright on the open market.

> On a tangent, regarding Monster Garage: Each episode has a set spending
> limit, and they seem to stick with it - with one freakin' huge loop hole
> known as "Freebies." I have occasionally wondered how much, if anything,
> the "Freebies" cost Jesse James out of pocket...


Usually the people who make the stuff provide it for the ad placement
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
I you go to the Overhaulin' web site you will see a disclaimer on the
application for a car to be on the show stating that you are responsible
for the taxes on the value of all the products that go into the cars. I
don't know if that is limited to just hardware, or does it include the
design. What is a Chip Foose Car worth? Some of the cars on the Speed
Channel's telecast of the Barrett-Jackson were Foose Designs, and they were
going in the 100K range. Overall just the taxes on a Foose Designed car
would be a bargin, if you had the cash or a good line of credit.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Craig Shaffer wrote:
> I you go to the Overhaulin' web site you will see a disclaimer on the
> application for a car to be on the show stating that you are responsible
> for the taxes on the value of all the products that go into the cars. I
> don't know if that is limited to just hardware, or does it include the
> design. What is a Chip Foose Car worth? Some of the cars on the Speed
> Channel's telecast of the Barrett-Jackson were Foose Designs, and they were
> going in the 100K range. Overall just the taxes on a Foose Designed car
> would be a bargin, if you had the cash or a good line of credit.
>
>

I wonder about the legality of that. The person filling out the
application is supposed to be a friend or relative of the owner, not the
owner himself. The person filling out the application doesn't receive
the taxable benefit so they don't owe the tax, and the owner who
receives the benefit never agreed to have the work done. Doesn't seem
right to pay for something you never asked for. And its not like when
your mechanic installs a part you don't want. The mechanic has the
option of removing the offending part if you refuse to pay for it. The
show can't just undo everything they did to your car.

I'm sure the owner has to sign a lot of paperwork before they drive away
with their 'new' vehicle. I wonder what happens if they refuse to?
Does the show have a mechanics lien for the work they performed on a car
that they stole? Unless the person who applied to the show is a
registered owner of the vehicle, they aren't able to authorize the
removal of the vehicle or the work. So as far as I'm concerned, the
vehicle was truly stolen. Do you have to pay a car thief for any new
parts he adds to your vehicle or pay taxes on that?
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Re: Final Sale Price

"KJ.Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> $50,709.00
>
> DAMN!
> It was kind of cool, but not THAT cool
>

Yeah, but the buyer can unload those godawful rims and tires for about 10 large,
to some big pimpin' fool.

So... it's almost a steal for 40k. ;)
--
John C.
'03 Cobra Convt.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:45:57 -0800, Garth Almgren <[email protected]>
puked:

>Around 1/27/2006 6:47 AM, Craig Shaffer wrote:
>
>> One thing that may also "force" people to sell these Foose Cars is that the
>> owner is responsible for the Federal, State and Local Income Taxes on the
>> vehicle.

>
>No kidding?
>
>The impression these shows seem to give is that someone (the producers?)
>is doing all the work out of the kindness of their hearts, not to
>mention wallets. As in completely gratis to the so-called victim.
>
>I can just imagine: "Surprise! We stole your car, modded the heck out of
>it in ways you never wanted, added a stereo that will make your bladder
>and bowels empty, your heart fibrillate, and your brain liquefy. We also
>made it all look like someone puked on a couple of pop cans, inside and
>out. But wait, there's more: [dramatic pause] Here's the bill! [stunned
>silence] (Come on, pretend you're happy with the car, just for the
>cameras!)"
>
>
>
>On a tangent, regarding Monster Garage: Each episode has a set spending
>limit, and they seem to stick with it - with one freakin' huge loop hole
>known as "Freebies." I have occasionally wondered how much, if anything,
>the "Freebies" cost Jesse James out of pocket...


I always figured that it was that "promotional consideration" kinda
thing. Same with 'Overhaulin'
--
lab~rat >:)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
66 6F HCS wrote:
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote
> > I was telling
> > my wife that she would not appreciate the car when we watched the
> > program....then a few month later she sells it. Go figure.

>
> The EXACT same thing happened with the 1970 Sportsroof Mustang he did at the
> SEMA show. A couple months later it was for sale on EBay also.
> --
> Scott W.
> '66 HCS Mustang 289
> '68 Ranchero 500 302
> '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
> ThunderSnake #57
> http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/


Looks like Ford may have commissioned Foose to redo one more of these
'Stangs; go to www.samsclub.com and check the auction that's going
until 2/7; the car is up to 65,600 right now. I compared the ebay
pictures to the one on the flyer and website; same paint job. I saw
the show too, but this one is a 2006 model.
 
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