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Does anyone out there have any experience installing a Scat Stroker Kit or any other brand in the 351C? How about aluminum heads? I am looking at the Edelbrock heads. I'm not building a racer, just a solid street cruiser with extra HP.
 

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I would go for CHI or AFD alloy heads over edelbrock heads .
As for the stroker kit I have had a 393 built using scat crank and rods and the engine builder said there was no real issues .
I think as long as you get the right length rods to suit the crank all is good .
I am sure davis or brenx will be able to help as they both have assembled their own 393 engines
 

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Not sure the going price on fully setup Edelbrock heads, but CHI and AFD are quite competitive on their prices now, and I agree, as mentioned, they'd be a better head. CHI = $2800 fully set up heads with all the fruit for your combo. AFD about the same.
 

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RHarden said:
Does anyone out there have any experience installing a Scat Stroker Kit or any other brand in the 351C? How about aluminum heads? I am looking at the Edelbrock heads. I'm not building a racer, just a solid street cruiser with extra HP.
I have a pair of 393" strokers and a custom 410" stroker, all using Scat crankshafts.




The 393 is a good choice, but for a true streeter, I'd probably recommend doing a 383. As for heads, go to www.ausfordparts.com for a set of AFD 2Vs and get a Weiand Xcelerator (single plenum) or any of the good aftermarket dual plenum inlet manifolds. Stay away from anything with the Edelbrock name on it regarding Clevelands at this point...the only exception is a Torker 4V, but I probably wouldn't go with a 4V head on a pure streeter that is intended to be a nice crusier/driver.

The biggest thing to note is that the Scat cranks (and all others, unless custom made) have a Windsor sized front snout, which will want a Windsor dampner or you can bush/shim the snout for the larger Cleveland dampner if you want.

Unless you already have all of the parts, the hottest deal going is a Clevor using an aftermarket block with Cleveland mains. Basically, you want to get the large bore Dart or World block, bore them to about 4.155-4.185 and then use a 3.850" stroke crank in a 9.5" block. This will put your oil rings above your piston pin and give you a 418 CID with a 4.155 and 424 CID with a 4.185.

The AFD 2Vs will easily handle the flow you need for a street RPM (1200-6000) big-inch Cleveland.

I would use the Scat 9000-series crank, as you don't need the extra strength of a 4340 crank for a low-RPM street engine.

I would use the 3.750" stroker crank in a 9.2" Cleveland block. In both combinations, I would run the large chamber AFD 2Vs and flat tops with extra large valve reliefs. That should put you at or near 10.5-10.6:1 compression, which should run well with 91 octane unleaded crapola fuel. You'll probably want to use a 750 DP. I might try one of the "Street Avenger" carbs to see how it works, as it will get better fuel economy.

What you want in a street car is a torque monster. Anything with 400+ foot pounds of torque is going to make your car feel very strong and pull on just about anything else on the street. A 383 or larger Cleveland/Clevor will easily make 400 TQ with good heads and an appropriate camshaft.

Speaking of camshafts, once you determine where you're going to be with your block, bore and stroke combination, give Mark Mckeown at www.mmeracing.com a call and have him grind you a custom hydraulic roller. In fact, you can call him and he can hook you up with everything that you need.

Personally, I'd build a 424" with a set of AFD 4V heads and a Funnelweb with an 850 DP and a fairly big solid roller camshaft and "just live with it" on the street. It would make about 650 HP and about 570+ TQ...however, it wouldn't be as sweet and nice as a more mildly built engine. As it is now, I have a factory block/4V heads 357" in my F100 with a solid flat tappet camshaft and a Torker inlet...a 424 would really move it's heavy arse!


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TruBlu351 said:
Spellin please davis......crusier? C'mon now.
That isn't what is called a spelling error, it is a typographical error. At least I got all of the right letters...sometimes I type so fast that I transpose letters...so shoot me.

Cruiser...happy now?

I'm glad that you guys are focused so strongly on my content that a simple transposition warrants such attention. Obviously I'll have to spend even more time proofreading my posts than I do now to satisfy your rather stringent requirements as moderator. I hope that you'll hold others to the same high standards. I'm tired of seeing:

allot, alot (a lot)
definately (definitely)
your (you are, you're)
there (they're, their)

...and numerous others.


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So you can spell, but have troubles typing. Don't worry, you're not alone, so don't beat yourself up :priest:
I won't knock your spelling, just appreciate your info on the matter. After watching Barrett-Jackson this last weekend, I think I'll forget the 351C and find a 428FE and put that into the car. Seems like the money poeple don't really care if the car is 100 percent stock. they just want big cubes with HP. RHarden
 

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RHarden said:
I won't knock your spelling, just appreciate your info on the matter. After watching Barrett-Jackson this last weekend, I think I'll forget the 351C and find a 428FE and put that into the car. Seems like the money poeple don't really care if the car is 100 percent stock. they just want big cubes with HP. RHarden
I watched the auction, too. Rather than using a POS 428 FE, just build a big-inch Cleveland and watch them all think that it is a big block! The Cleveland heads are much better than a set of wannabe FE medium risers...or even the high risers for that matter.

Take a Dart 9.5" block with Cleveland mains and punch it out to 4.185" bore, use a 4.000" stroke crank and a set of AFD 4V heads and a BSD 8:71 blower and their killer EFI and drop it into the ugliest, weirdest POS car body style you can find and you'll get 2 million...more if it is a BIG BUS.

There were some nice cars at the auction, but it was wayyyy too top-heavy with Chevies. I particularly liked the Mopars...mostly the Plum Crazy hemi '70 RR. I had a '70 RR with 440 3x2 with pistol grip shifter, bench seat, air grabber hood scoop and I really wish that I still had it. I paid $500 for it in 1979. You couldn't hardly touch a junker for less than $50K today.


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