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They do ask for Delphi exposure too though! But if you know Delphi, then you understand basic OO principals, exceptions handling etc, so the transition to C++ (and Java) is relatively easy, aside from the annoying syntactical differences.

I'm using both Delphi and Java at the moment, had regular C experience and some other langs so I could wing it, but as cool as it would be to work with Motec, the pay isn't great.

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True, true. Yeah I've done some time with C/C++ as well, but not enough in a commercial sense, only really at uni and one or two small projects outside. Like you say though, the pay isn't quite there with other places, but then again, it would be a pretty sweet place to work, not to mention a great product to develop!

... and there'd always be the chance of doing some "testing" of the product in one's own vehicle!! :D

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Well i've done C programing in Uni, but must say i ain't the expert in it. :( :( :(

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Creators Admit UNIX, C Hoax

In an announcement that has stunned the computer industry, Ken Thompson,
Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan admitted that the Unix operating system and
C programming language created by them is an elaborate prank kept alive for
over 20 years. Speaking at the recent UnixWorld Software Development Forum,
Thompson revealed the following:

"In 1969, AT&T had just terminated their work with the GE/Honeywell/AT&T
Multics project. Brian and I had started work with an early release of Pascal
from Professor Niklaus Wirth's ETH labs in Switzerland and we were impressed
with its elegant simplicity and power.

Dennis had just finished reading 'Bored of the Rings', a National
Lampoon parody of the Tolkien's 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy. As a lark,
we decided to do parodies of the Multics environment and Pascal. Dennis
and I were responsible for the operating environment. We looked at
Multics and designed the new OS to be as complex and cryptic as possible to
maximize casual users' frustration levels, calling it Unix as a parody
of Multics, as well as other more risque allusions. We sold the terse
command language to novitiates by telling them that it saved them

Then Dennis and Brian worked on a warped version of Pascal, called 'A'. 'A'
looked a lot like Pascal, but elevated the notion of the direct memory address
(which Wirth had banished) to the central concept of the language. This was
Dennis's contribution, and he in fact coined the term "pointer" as an
innocuous sounding name for a truly malevolent construct.

Brian must be credited with the idea of having absolutely no standard I/O
specification: this ensured that at least 50% of the typical commercial
program would have to be recoded when changing hardware platforms. Brian was
also responsible for pitching this lack of I/O as a feature: it allowed us to
describe the language as "truly portable".

When we found others were actually creating real programs with A, we removed
compulsory type-checking on function arguments. Later, we added a notion we
called "casting": this allowed the programmer to treat an integer as though it
were a 50kb user-defined structure.

When we found that some programmers were simply not using pointers, we
eliminated the ability to pass structures to functions, enforcing their
use in even the Simplest applications. We sold this, and many other
features, as enhancements to the efficiency of the language. In this
way, our prank evolved into B, BCPL, and finally C.

We stopped when we got a clean compile on the following syntax:
for (;("\n"),R-;P("|"))for(e=3DC;e-;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("|"+(*u/4)%2);

At one time, we joked about selling this to the Soviets to set their
computer science progress back 20 or more years. Unfortunately, AT&T
and other US corporations actually began using Unix and C. We decided
we'd better keep mum, assuming it was just a passing phase. In fact,
it's taken US companies over 20 years to develop enough expertise to
generate useful applications using this 1960's technological parody.
We are impressed with the tenacity of the general Unix and C
programmer. In fact, Brian, Dennis and I have never ourselves
attempted to write a commercial application in this environment.

We feel really guilty about the chaos, confusion and truly awesome
programming projects that have resulted from our silly prank so long
ago." Dennis Ritchie said: "What really tore it (just when Ada was
catching on), was that Bjarne Stroustrup caught onto our joke. He
extended it to further parody, Smalltalk.
Like us, he was caught by surprise when nobody laughed. So he added
multiple inheritance, virtual base classes, and later... templates.
All to no avail. So we now have compilers that can compile 100,000
lines per second, but need to process header files for 25 minutes
before they get to the meat of "Hello, World".

Major Unix and C vendors and customers, including AT&T, Microsoft,
Hewlett-Packard, GTE, NCR, and DEC have refused comment at this time.
Borland International, a leading vendor of object-oriented tools,
including the popular Turbo Pascal and Borland C++, stated they had
suspected this for a couple of years. In fact, the notoriously late
Quattro Pro for Windows was originally written in C++.

Philippe Kahn said: "After two and a half years programming, and
massive programmer burn-outs, we recoded the whole thing in Turbo
Pascal in three months. "I think it's fair to say that Turbo Pascal
saved our bacon". Another Borland spokesman said that they would
continue to enhance their Pascal products and halt further efforts to
develop C/C++.

Professor Wirth of the ETH institute and father of the Pascal, Modula 2
and Oberon structured languages, cryptically said "P.T. Barnum was
right." He had no further comments.

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laminge said:
Isnt C+++ just a vitamin supp????
Yes, and C# is an illicit drug. ;)
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