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So who's the lifer's in this forum?

I was talking to a friend about new cars and it made me think - whats the driving force behind buying a new car?

Take an ED Fairmont Ghia for example. They can be picked up in very good nick for $6 000 or thereabouts. Compared to a BA Fairmont Ghia for $50 000 (I can't remember but the exact price isn't important).

Now thats $44 000 difference in which many many improvements can be made for that money to at least equal and exceed the performance, handling, specifications of the BA. So say $24 000 is spent on the ED, leaving $20 000 remaing.

Who's the people that value the newness of a car and who prefers the old faithfuls? Who will be driving an E-series in 15 years time? Who's car is heading for the crushers as soon as they can make enough to buy a new one?

I know that there are still difference between them such as comfort, etc but still thats a personal taste.

My opinion?

I'd like to sell my current EA - or give it away to my little brother and get an ED sedan or AU ute. Then spend some money on it knowing it will I will never get it back but buying cars is not an investment.

What kind of aftermarket will Falcons have in 15 years? Who knows but you can buy brand new door trims, etc for HQ's etc so only time will tell...

Dan..
 

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my EF will be sticking around for a long time, won't be upgrading in the forseeable future, if the EF starts causing major problems, then i'd look into it.
but for now the beast is staying :)
 

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well, unless i get some U-Beaute job that pays a shiteload of moolah, i think im going to be in E-series for life :D

and even if i did, i think i would just retire the XR to 'weekend racer' and modify the absolute crap out of it, respray, panelbeat, full leather interior and monster integrated stezza, full adjustable suspension, HUGE brakes, the works, I want to lap any circuit in Australia quicker than the V8 supercars with time to spare...

and then i would have an auto XR6 turbo with a stage II APS kit on it (good for high 11s low 12s) that would be my drive car...

and then a Viper....mmmmmmmmmmmmm a black or blue coupe with white stripes and the factory chrome wheels, and some sweet NA mods so it goes as hard as it should, thats the cruiser...

but yeah - for all intents and purposes im in love with the E-series cars, and i think i will be forever.
 

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On a slighty different and slightly the same topic..

Now I may be behind the times here and someone may alreayd be doing this...

The used car market is huge - how strange it would be if someone re-birthed cars! As in like what the wreckers do but do old cars back up to like new condition and sell them as new cars with full waranty. It would be like walking into a car yard 10 years ago!

Rebuilt motors, transmissions, interior, electronics, etc.. However society would reject this guaranteed....

Stupid thought I know... Who would pay $20K for an ED thats in 100% perfect nick with 100 000km warranty with all improved parts?

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My next car, which will be a younger e series is goin to be with me until i can afford something from europe, even then i might do as rollin is plannin, retire it to be a weekend race car.
 

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if i ever get bored with my e series car i'll save n turbo it or something,prefer the older cars they look nicer once all done up nicely etc..


but yeah if i ever get the urge to go new i would go up to new it'd be 5 yrs over bracket..
 

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I love the look of my EL and I love the feel of her under foot and on the black stuff. I'll hang on to her for some time yet. I'm happy that I own her and can do what I want mods wise etc. No plans for another car. Perhaps the next step will be a company car, in which case I may keep the EL as well.
 

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At the momet im sticking with the EB. If i endup putting a decent ammount of cash into it ill probly keep it for years to come even when i buy another car.
 

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Can't see getting rid of the EB - resale value means nothing to me :) I'll just keep her as a hot daily driver and have one or two burnout cars for taking to pissups hehe
Plan is to have my WB panno get a v12, and eventually I wouldn't mind a Camaro or Transam either....
 

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thats the way to go, leave it till its worth nothing, then keep it coz u can't get something for it.
 

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!Gn|T|0n said:
I love the look of my EL and I love the feel of her under foot and on the black stuff. I'll hang on to her for some time yet. I'm happy that I own her and can do what I want mods wise etc. No plans for another car. Perhaps the next step will be a company car, in which case I may keep the EL as well.

Ignition is on the money.. If you need a car for business (ie; taking clients places, sales rep or as a promotional vechicle) now matter how flash your E series car is the average one eyed Joe Blow will always see it as a 10 year old car..

Keeping your favorite ride as a weekend warrior on the other hand is completely different... You can always justify $50k if it is on lease or a tax write off..
 

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I dunno what I really plan to do, probably keep the EB for a long time to come, as a daily driver. That or get an ED gli with ABS and transfer all the Fairmont stuff into it.

The want list includes a supercharged V8 NL Ghia, 351 XB Coupe, 351 XY Sedan, XE ESP and LX SS Torana, if all goes to plan those will come and go, with the EB just battling on, getting fixed as she needs it.

It'll probably happen that I sell the EB to pay of debts and get around in a Datto 120 Y in about 5 years, but hey, we can dream :)
 

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i dont see myself selling the NC any time soon, but ill be buying the EA wagon off the folks in a years time and then going apeshit on it with a DL LTD as a donor car.

then the wagon will be the car that will remain if i sell one of them and the new car would be something like a BA G220 Fairlane

but yeah no imediate plans to sell the NC - hell im only just starting to mod it :angel:
 

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if anything i'll sell the EB for an XB or XP or a cruiser car thats piss easy to maintain.

hell or i'll probably run my eb till it goes all to shet and i cant get parts no more, then i'll drop the V8 into a GT40 kit car or something..

either that or one day i'll trade her in on a AU/BA xr8... but that'd be over 5 years away.
 

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well im going to continue to stick with the E-Series for a while yet. Im planning to keep the EA for a couple of years then get a NL fairlane V8, on an EL Fairmont V8. probably a BA after that, but who knows - maybe an EA GT replica :)
 

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Well i wanna do up the xr then later on buy a series 3 TS or TE 50, u see id have one of the first tickfords and one of the last... thats my dream anyways!
 

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Very interesting thread. I've given this matter thought over many years, and my strong view is that new cars are NOT automatically superior in every way as everyone likes to think. Sometimes you get a load of marketing BS (can't think of a great example right now... Holden's Dampolator?), other times you get improvements in some areas and failures in others.

Comparing a BA to an AU, the AU weighs a fair bit less, therefore all things being equal will handle better, brake better, accelerate faster and use less fuel. The BA partly compensates for these factors with DOHC engines, uprated brakes and IRS across the board, BUT it still uses too much fuel for a modern car and is always going to be slower than an equivalent AU or E series in the context of a quarter mile beast. (not that I'm against the BA, but it's a classic example)

My personal opinion is that the primary incentive for buying a new car is the emotional factor; the wank factor if you like. A secondhand car that is a few years old will be 90% as good for half the price, but just won't have the street cred and won't impress the neighbours as much.

Since you asked, my next car will be a 1990 LS400, and let me tell you there are very few new cars that will come close to its engineering (and the E series is staying too :s5).

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Although my car has been good to me, my E-series ownership days will be over very shortly if all goes to plan. :s6: :thup:

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Hmm tough question. I would love to keep my ED forever, and look back and say, "this car has lasted me 30 years so far". Mind you, by this stage she has the most worked Ford six pack under the bonnet with a supercharger hanging off the side!

Although, the next car I want is either: AUII+ Fairmont Ghia (V8, of course) or a TS50. Time will only tell...
 

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I will be keeping my xr for quite a while yet.Dont know if i will ever get rid of it but it wont be staying standard thats for sure.I want an alloy headed stroker with 6 speed for it.
 
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