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Harry Be Kewell
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I know im mentioning the "Forbidden" word commodore but some cock was trying to tell me today that his VT would beat my AU to 100. im not sure it would. though it would be close. is he speaking shizen?

holden drivers, think there so good. GRR. ne way. thats all...
 

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lol, shizen. Love that word.

Id say the V6 would beat u to 100 cos they pick up a lot quicker than the Inline.
Falcons are generally better for towing e.t.c Rather than racing i reckon.

Others might disagree. But they probly got mods.
 

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Here's a list of times I dug up from a site somewhere. Its more the performance versions than the base models. It may not be 100% accurate so no hating. :fraz:


0-100 km/h (seconds) Quarter Mile (seconds) Power(kilowatts)
1991-6 Ford Falcon XR8 5-speed 8.1 15.6 165
1991-6 Holden Commodore SS 5.0 auto 7.9 15.9 165
1991-4 Holden Caprice 5.0 auto 8.3 16.0 165
1992 HSV Club Sport auto 8.2 16.0 180
1992 HSV Senator 5000i auto 7.8 15.7 200
1993-8 Ford Falcon XR6 5-speed 7.8 15.6 161/164
1994 Ford Falcon XR8 Sprint 5-speed 7.3-8.0 15.1-15.6 192-195
1993 HSV Club Sport auto 8.4 16.1 185
1994-6 HSV GTS 5.7 6-speed 6.6 14.8 176
1996 HSV 5.0 Manta wagon auto 8.2 - 195
1996-7 HSV Senator 5.7 auto 6.9 15.0 220
1997 HSV GTS 5.7 auto 6.9 15.0 220
1997-8 Ford Falcon GT 5-speed 8.0 15.5 200
1997- Commodore S supercharged auto 7.2-8.2 15.4-15.9 171
1998 HSV Manta, Club Sport 5.0 5-speed 7.6 15.5 195
1998 5.7 GTS, Senator auto 6.9 15.0 220
1998 Mitsubishi Magna Sport 5-speed 8.2 15.8 147
1998 Ford Falcon XR8 5-speed 7.8 15.7 185
1999 5.0 Club Sport 5-speed, XU8 5-speed 7.6, 8.3 15.5, 15.9 195
1999 5.7 litre GTS, Senator, Grange 6.9 14.8-15.2 220
1999 Holden Commodore 5.0 SS 5-speed 8.2 15.8 179
1999 Ford Falcon XR6 5-speed 8.3 15.9 164
1999- Ford Falcon XR6 VCT 5-speed 8.2 15.7 172
1999- Ford Falcon XR8 5-speed 7.2 15.2 185
1999- Ford Fairlane Ghia 5.0 auto 7.9 15.8 175
2000 HSV 5.7 Club Sport 5-speed 6.3 14.6 250
2000 HSV Club Sport R8 5-speed (around $60,000 when new in 2000) 6.0 14.2 250
2000 Holden Commodore 5.7 SS 5-speed 6.3 14.5 220
2000 Holden Statesman 5.7 auto 7.3 15.2 220
2000 Ford Falcon XR8 5-speed 7.3 15.3 200
2000 Ford Falcon 4.0 S 5-speed 7.9 15.8 157
2000- Mitsubishi Magna VRX 5-speed 8.0 15.7 163



I have the wheels mag where the AU was released so if u need figures from that I can check. It may have the specs in it.
 

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EL Series 2 XR8 BOY RACER
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I've dragged two VY Commo's in my EF with pacemaker extractors, lukey exhaust and tickford snorkel, beat them both by about a car length to 120, so I'm pretty sure you could beat it mate. By the way I was beaten off the line both times because of my damn 3.08 open diff :p *mumbles obscenities about tall 1st gear*

Nick.
 

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According to my humble stopwatch, my parents AU ute has always been a shade faster to 100 than their VT. i think on average it was about 8.7-9.1 vs 9.3-9.8. That was over about 5 runs each. One run in the ute I freaked about an 8.4, but it seems to quick.

On the street, from the lights, the VT definately launches harder, but the Auto then stuffs it by revving to high in first and not making power anymore, and then shifts to second and falls in a torque hole around 70Km/h. The AU, on the other hand is getting into its stride about then
 

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The AU Forte is quicker than the VT Executive. The AU had a weight advantage and weighed less than its predecessor. If we are talking AU II vs VT II it could well swing the other way.
 

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My mate has a new VY S Pac and we used to race our old cars all the time.

We went out the road just to see what would happen. I have a AUII, standard except I have a Lukey box at the back.

The results wont please all, but this is what happened.

Out of 4 races, I lost them all.

The Commy gets off the line much quicker. But, be the end of the 1/4, I am running him down, and fast!!

We had another rolling start, and I got in front of him, and pulled away.

People have to accept that 6 cylinders are not fast cars!! The Falcons gearing is against it as well. But, on the open road, if you have a Commy behind you, you should be able to stay in front. The Fords motor just has much more GRUNT!!
 

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VT would beat you hands down i reckon. Come on guys, no-one likes to admit it but the commies are fast, yes there sh*t, but there fast.
Im talking stock AU1 vs stock VT. I was beaten many a times by them.
 

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VT commys are far quicker off the mark - I can admit that. Though I reckon, once the AU hits 2nd gear, things will quickly start turning the other way around (unfortunately under those conditions it is no longer a street legal cometition ;) )

Kewell_711 said:
I know im mentioning the "Forbidden" word commodore but some cock was trying to tell me today that his VT would beat my AU to 100. im not sure it would. though it would be close. is he speaking shizen?
Not sure about the VT figures, but if you head over to http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts/falcon/auiifalcon.html you can get the low down on falcon specs. In my case, we have an AUII...so that applies to me..

0 - 100km: 9.2 (tested and proved pretty correct)
Standing 400m: 16.6 seconds

Interestingly enough, the AUI forte is rated at 8.6 for 0-100 and 16.5 for quarter mile..
 

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Age old debate guys. Off the mark the commodore auto is much stronger than the falcon. A 2.39:1 first gear will never better a 3.05:1 in the commo. It's always been said that the falcon makes it's best impressions in a manual, this has been the case since the XD days. The difference in acceleration between a manual and auto Commodore is not as much as manual and auto falcons.

Reason for the super tall gearing goes back to the gearbox design. When the ubeaut 4 speed BTR85LE rolled out in the EAII, the ratio's were identical to the old 3 speed but with an over drive. I suspect development costs prohibited a ratio revision.
So apart from relaxed cruising and fuel economy (1800rpm at 100km/h) the Falcon gearing has been unchanged since the XF 3 speed days.
 

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KenOath said:
My mate has a new VY S Pac and we used to race our old cars all the time.

We went out the road just to see what would happen. I have a AUII, standard except I have a Lukey box at the back.

The results wont please all, but this is what happened.

Out of 4 races, I lost them all.

The Commy gets off the line much quicker. But, be the end of the 1/4, I am running him down, and fast!!

We had another rolling start, and I got in front of him, and pulled away.

People have to accept that 6 cylinders are not fast cars!! The Falcons gearing is against it as well. But, on the open road, if you have a Commy behind you, you should be able to stay in front. The Fords motor just has much more GRUNT!!
So true mate.
 
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