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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
In article <[email protected]>,
"Whitelightning" <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/
>
> Drive a Ford product or park across the street. I think its great. GM
> needs to do same.
>
> Whitelightning


Fear makes people do stupid things, doesn't it? They should fire this
jackass. This is the kind of thinking that gives unions a toe-hold.
Like costa aren't high enough - they need stronger unions? Next,
someone sues Ford over this nonsense and then they are out the cost of
the suit, as well.

Their involvement in your life ends at the gate, at about quitting time.

H.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
"Rowbotth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> Fear makes people do stupid things, doesn't it? They should fire

this
> jackass. This is the kind of thinking that gives unions a toe-hold.
> Like costa aren't high enough - they need stronger unions? Next,
> someone sues Ford over this nonsense and then they are out the cost

of
> the suit, as well.
>
> Their involvement in your life ends at the gate, at about quitting

time.

Here's my take on it, if you wont buy what you produce, why the hell
should I?
Work for Pepsi and get caught drinking Coke on the job in uniform, or
vice versa,
and see how long your employed. It's known up front when they sign
on. Should be the
same in this case. Try and get a job at say Gateway and come to work
with an IBM
ThinkPad. Get a job in a retail operation and try to come to work
wearing the logo
of a competitor and see if they let you punch in and work.

They didn't say you couldn't drive a different brand , you can, right
up to that gate you
talked about as where their involvement ends, or in the case of
starting time, begins.. You wanna drive through that gate, its gotta
be a ford, you don't wanna drive a ford product, there's an employee
parking lot across the street and you can walk through it.

Whitelightning
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote
in message news:p[email protected]
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:15:42 GMT, "Whitelightning"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/
> >
> >Drive a Ford product or park across the street. I think its great.

GM
> >needs to do same.
> >
> >Whitelightning

>
> and this plant manager drives what??
>

If I were a gambling man I would say a Lincoln Navigator, or
Lincoln Mark LT Blackwood edition.

Whitelightning
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:35:08 GMT, "Whitelightning"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote
>in message news:p[email protected]
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:15:42 GMT, "Whitelightning"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/
>> >
>> >Drive a Ford product or park across the street. I think its great.

>GM
>> >needs to do same.
>> >
>> >Whitelightning

>>
>> and this plant manager drives what??
>>

>If I were a gambling man I would say a Lincoln Navigator, or
>Lincoln Mark LT Blackwood edition.


Yeah, probably with his 22" spinner wheels and personal DVD/TVs in
each headrest...

Nice way to piss off your workers....
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
how about ford makes a quality product at a reasonable price and stands
behind it.
and the unions get reasonable about pay and benefits?
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
"Whitelightning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/
>
> Drive a Ford product or park across the street. I think its great. GM
> needs to do same.
>
> Whitelightning
>
>


Actually, it's not a new rule. I worked at the Wayne Assembly Plant in
Michigan from 1969 to 1975, and the Ford drivers were allowed to enter
through the closer gates, and the non-Ford drivers had to park all the way
in the back lot. It was slightly less than 1/8 mile from that lot to the
entrance. That's a long damn way when it's -5 and the wind is blowing at
25MPH.

SC Tom
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
"SC Tom" <sc [email protected]e> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]
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> "Whitelightning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/
>>
>> Drive a Ford product or park across the street. I think its great. GM
>> needs to do same.
>>
>> Whitelightning
>>
>>

>
> Actually, it's not a new rule. I worked at the Wayne Assembly Plant in
> Michigan from 1969 to 1975, and the Ford drivers were allowed to enter
> through the closer gates, and the non-Ford drivers had to park all the way
> in the back lot. It was slightly less than 1/8 mile from that lot to the
> entrance. That's a long damn way when it's -5 and the wind is blowing at
> 25MPH.
>
> SC Tom
>

==
Now that's free country LOL
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
"deputystoneman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].
> how about ford makes a quality product at a reasonable price and

stands
> behind it.
> and the unions get reasonable about pay and benefits?
>


Just what do think is reasonable? How much less are you willing to do
the same job for?

On the quality issue, I think I've owned some of the supposed worst
vehicles ever built.
I had a 1973 Ford Pinto Wagon, baby blue, bought used in desperate
times for $50, done in trade for labor to get the clutch on a German
speced 1964 Mercedes Benz that a GI brought back from Germany working
for a used car dealer back in 84. I beat that car unmercifully. The
kid who owned it before had packed bondo around the roof rack to stop
it from leaking, don't have to tell you what that accomplished. I
took it off, aluminum duct taped the holes as big as grape fruit, a
layer of fiberglass and two spray cans for white rustolem paint. I
used it as a junk yard runner for side jobs done in the driveway
hauled more than a few engines in her, fishing car, and daily work
vehicle. I towed a 75 caddy sedan deville 30 miles on a tow rope
behind it on I-75 in Florida at 50 mph. I used to run logging roads
in the national forest in Ocala with it to get to fishing holes. The
floor boards went to hell in it, and my patch only slowed down the
roof rot, but she was still running when she went to the salvage yard,
and little 2.0 liter had almost 300,000 miles on her, the valve guides
were leaking fierce, Kendal GT70 weight slowed it down. I learned
that you had to shift out of first on the auto at no more than 42mph,
or a valve in the tranny would open and she'd go to neutral until the
rpms would drop. and that's how I drove her for five years. Friends
said when she shifted to second the stainless steel whip antenna on
the back bumper would all most kiss the pavement. She was a hard
running car, and sometimes I miss her. I put a few timing belts on
her, a water pump, two alternators, one starter. I was going to chop
the wagon area of the roof off, move the tailgate foreword and wield
it in for a little Pinchero, play on Pinto and Ranchero. But she was
vandalized, all the glass smashed out of her while sitting a buddy's
garage in large, along with 42 other calls at his lot and the
dealership next door while we were at the drag races with his car. I
figured it was a sign.

But I digress service bulletins and recalls 2005 models

2005 Toyota camry line had 25 , 1 recall for navigation system
Acura's flag ship 3.5RL had 27, 3 recalls
acura 3.2TL 24, 1 recall faulty fuse boxes
Honda Accord 2.4 ltr 42, 2 safety recalls, fuse box and side air bags
Honda Accord 3.0 same as above
Lexus SC430 15 , no recalls
The same year Crown Vic had 20 service bulletins, no recalls
The focus, had 27, 1 a recall, for an emissions sticker
The 500 2wd had 15 no recalls
the 500 AWD had 15 as well no recalls
the Taurus had 18, no recalls

All info from AllData.
so fords cheapest had as many total as Acura's flag ship, but 2 less
recalls, the rest of the ford
line was under all the so called great ones from Japan, with the
exception of the Lexus.

amazing, and yet we never hear about the rice rockets recalls in the
news, just the American Big two,
GM and Ford.
why didn't we hear about all the ball joint failures Toyota was
having?
why didn't we hear bout the rear axle hubs failing on toyotas in the
late 90's early 2000's?
What happened to the Toyota Vans from the late 80's early 90's?
why weren't we hearing about all the vehicle fires with them?
Why wasn't the news all over Honda with its control arm failures in
the late 90's early 2000's?
I wonder why that is?

Whitelightning
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·

>
> Actually, it's not a new rule. I worked at the Wayne Assembly Plant in
> Michigan from 1969 to 1975, and the Ford drivers were allowed to enter
> through the closer gates, and the non-Ford drivers had to park all the way
> in the back lot. It was slightly less than 1/8 mile from that lot to the
> entrance. That's a long damn way when it's -5 and the wind is blowing at
> 25MPH.
>
> SC Tom
>
>

That's what I thought. So it's basically a non-issue.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:04:08 GMT, "Whitelightning"
<[email protected]> wrote:

[snip]
>amazing, and yet we never hear about the rice rockets recalls in the
>news, just the American Big two,
>GM and Ford.
>why didn't we hear about all the ball joint failures Toyota was
>having?
>why didn't we hear bout the rear axle hubs failing on toyotas in the
>late 90's early 2000's?
>What happened to the Toyota Vans from the late 80's early 90's?
>why weren't we hearing about all the vehicle fires with them?
>Why wasn't the news all over Honda with its control arm failures in
>the late 90's early 2000's?
>I wonder why that is?


Don't forget about all the 3.0L Toyota V6s eating head gaskets...
 
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