[Oz]

Hi all,

I know this topic may be a sensitive one to some, but I would just like to ask, how does the EF XR6 perform up against a 5 ltr Commodore (185Kw or greater)? Maybe there are a few of you who can speak from personal experiences

 

[paul]

Do they make a performance Commodore? I'd put my money on the xr6 esp down low.

 

[Oz]

Paul,

I meant the SS Commodore. For instance, the VR put out 165Kw, whereas the VS had 185Kw.

 

[Martin]

The 5.0L VS didnt have 185Kw, it had 168Kw. There was a HSV upgrade available for them though, which brought power to 185Kw.

With 2 equal drivers I think an EF XR6 would would win by a couple lengths over the 1/4 against a 168kw 5.0L VS, the 185Kw would be a bit closer.

 

[xr6digga]

how about an EF II XR6 versus a VTII Commodore V6 S pack ?? both manuals.

 

[paul]

o/k I'v found a Jan 2001 Motor mag Fordxr6hp 7;8 0-100 1/4 15;[email protected]164 kw5000rpm [email protected] rpm 1500 kg=9.1kg/kw power to weight
xr6 vct 8.07 0-100 15;59 1/4 [email protected]
[email protected] 1664 kg 9.4 kg/kw weight to power
Tickford te50 6.62 0 to 100 1/4 [email protected] nm @4000 1664 kg 7;6 w/power
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Holden they DON"T list the figures for the six[I know why]
the six puts out a whoping high [email protected] rpm 370 nm @3600 10.1 kg/kw w/weightWOW
5.7 CHEV 111 SS SO MORE

 

[paul]

Holden ss v8 5.7 chev 111 "sorry not 5Ltr"
6.34 0/100 14.39 1/4 mile 225 kw/5000
[email protected] 1662kg 7;3 power/weight But thats the 5.7 111..The Hole den 5Ltr is NOT as quick by heaps.But it doesn't list it here.The super charged v6 171 [email protected]
[email protected] 1651 kg 9.5 power/weight ON HIGH octane fuel..........

 

[paul]

I went and rearched through my mag selection,Ill have to pump iron latter,
Holden:5Ltr ss 179 kw 400nm they didn't list performance figures either?
Only H.S.V Manta v.s 5Ltr 0 to 100=8;2 1/4 16;2 185 kw/400nm.I tried best I could do...

 

[Black S]

Are we talking about the Stock Holden S or the Supercharged version?
The stock S puts out 147kws and 302Nm Torque.

Not sure what the Supercharged version puts out. But I think its around what the XR6 VCT puts out.

 

[xr6digga]

Just the S, not supercharged.
So what I gathered is that the EFII XR6 would piss all over the VTII S pack Commodore?

Geez i hate Holdens. But Ford should really bring out a big V8 like they have in the States.

 

[Oz]

Mate,

Your dream may just come true! Ford is soon to bring out a 250Kw XR8 (4.6L V8)... check it out @ http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/motor/motorstory.asp?ID=3131

 

[Oz]

ooops... that didn't come out as expected:

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/motor/motorstory.asp?ID=3131

 

[Kon]

Oz

No such luck with the 4.6. The motor they talk about is the old 5.0 stroked to 5.6.

Of course that's not such a bad thing itself.

 

[paul]

Both figures Are there,not writen too well I know.Interesting the XR6 hp is quicker esp
0 to 100[lighter]than XR6 vct [heavier]notice the power to weight?The Holeden is shit house.In power to weight.Strange that I found two mags neither had performance times in them.Yes Holden would have lost thats why.Holden bias?? YES!!!!!!!

 

[pmurgatroyd46]

Hi all,

Just thought that I would supply a few details on the subject from some old motor mags from the past and here are the findings.

VR SS 165Kw 8.8Kw/kilo

0-100 7.87 sec, 0-400m 15.75 sec

VS SS II 168 Kw

0-100 7.34 sec, 0-400m 15.27 sec

VT SS series 1 179 Kw

0-100 7.58 sec, 0-400m 15.58 sec

VT series 1 Clubsport 195Kw

0-100 7.07sec, 0-400m 15.24 sec

VT S series 2 152 Kw

0-100 9.3, 0-400m 16.9 sec

EF XR6 164Kw

0-100 7.86 sec, 0-400m 15.37 sec

El XR6 164 Kw

0-100 7.55 sec, 0-400m 15.26 sec.

I hope this sorts out a few details for you as the research was a bit difficult on the Clubsport as they did not list the performance of 0-100 in many places, not sure why.

Peter.

 

[TERRA359]

AUII XLS 5.0 V8 SUPERCHARGED
0-100 ABOUT 5.5 SEC (TRACTION!?!)
0-400 I DON'T KNOW BUT IT'S ENOUGH TO PUT PLENTY LENGHTS ON A GENIII R8 (ABOUT 13.5)
202KW AT WHEELS RUNNING 6PSI