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Hi All,

There was a thread on FF going back around 6 months ago regarding weight loss and muscle gain. I was around 93kg at the time and I am 186 cm tall when i read it and though to myself i am getting a little bit heavy so i did some extensive reading over the next month and devised my own plan with a lot of mixed thoughts.

Within the last 5 months I have been going to the Gym 3 to 4 times a week and latley slowing off a little. I am now down to 80kg with a hell of a lot more muscle bulk than i have ever had. Im currently taking protein shakes on my workout days and love it. One problem is my gym membership has expired and I can not afford to go anymore. I am now going to buy myself some weights so I can save money. I also would like to help others out with what I did and how I done it so if anyone is interested reply to the thread. Mostly my diet changed i ate just more often around 5 to 6 times a day to keep the metabolism running and all soft drink was dropped.

Also if anyone has any gym equipment Like a bench press, Barbells, Dumbells that they dont use and want to get rid of em to the right buyer PM me.

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congrats

depends were you go for your gym membership.. mines like 14 a fortnight, which is cheaper just to go to the gym then buy the stuff

just get a power rack, bench, barbell, weights, etc. dont need much more then that
 

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Yeah Steve I still have your program saves in word somewhere. I too have slowed downt his past month but I am looking at starting back again after new year and really getting serious. I'll talk to you at the heathcote meet more.
 

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Am interested to know what you did. Am actually nearly the same weight as you once were but a couple cm shorter.
 

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can discuss this issue with both of you guys at heathcote :)
 

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will have to have a chat with you about the diet steve. what protein shake did you take? I am looking at taking some but not sure which one to get.
 

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I have tried heaps of differant protiens, rule of thumb if moeny is tight take 1 shake 30 mins before workout and one directly after workout there i slike a 45 minute window after a workout that will close so everthing has to be taken before it closes.

If you have a little bit more $$ to throw around take one in the morning one before training and one after training also take one in the morning on your non training days. I also must stress do not to any type of cardio 8 hours before of 8 hours after a Weights workout. Your body will otherwise burn the muscle that gain it so to speak.

I have a current 2 day split program, it was on a three but have been a little slack I guess I am a lound to be it's Xmas. Plus my gyms bloody shut when I get home so its getting me angry thats also why I want to get my own weights they can never make up there mind when there open.

Just make sure the protein has around 25 - 30 grams of protein per 30g scoop. Price really means nothing, I have tried some expensive ones with the same results as the cheaper ones I guess its experimenting. I usally buy a 3 kg tub that last's just on a month to month and a half around $60 - $80

WPI (WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE) is more for after training quicker absortion and weight loss.

WPC (Whey PROTEIN CONCENTRATE) has more carbs and will make you put on more bulk.

Hope some of this info helps
 

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My brother after his first knee injury was overweight and was ridiculed at school because of it. After he did his knee, his whole attitude changed, and the rehab he did consisted of a lot of running, swimming, cycling and weights. He lost a lot of weight and also put on a reasonable amount of muscle. He has changed so much and is a lot happier because of it.

It is definately a great thing to be doing...and I'm glad you mentioned the fact that you eat 5 to 6 times a day...because that is one point people lose it on..they think that if they eat less that they will get better. A common misconception. One thing my brother did in particular eating-wise though was cut out a lot of carbohydrates in his diet....a bad thing for you to actually do..but the quickest way to eat away the fat - use more energy than you consume.

I really need to do something though...I am definately not the correct weight for my height. Alas, I never get off my arse to do something.
 

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Steve, I am almost the same height and weight as you when you started and have been wantin to get into the gym for awhile but not known where to start. I'll have a talk to ya at Heathcote mate.
 

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I have tried heaps of differant protiens, rule of thumb if moeny is tight take 1 shake 30 mins before workout and one directly after workout there i slike a 45 minute window after a workout that will close so everthing has to be taken before it closes.

If you have a little bit more $$ to throw around take one in the morning one before training and one after training also take one in the morning on your non training days. I also must stress do not to any type of cardio 8 hours before of 8 hours after a Weights workout. Your body will otherwise burn the muscle that gain it so to speak.

I have a current 2 day split program, it was on a three but have been a little slack I guess I am a lound to be it's Xmas. Plus my gyms bloody shut when I get home so its getting me angry thats also why I want to get my own weights they can never make up there mind when there open.

Just make sure the protein has around 25 - 30 grams of protein per 30g scoop. Price really means nothing, I have tried some expensive ones with the same results as the cheaper ones I guess its experimenting. I usally buy a 3 kg tub that last's just on a month to month and a half around $60 - $80

WPI (WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE) is more for after training quicker absortion and weight loss.

WPC (Whey PROTEIN CONCENTRATE) has more carbs and will make you put on more bulk.

Hope some of this info helps

Cheers for that Steve. I not too worried about putting on the bulk but more using the fat stored when training. I will check out the stores after new year for the ones with WPI. I used to take L-Cartine to help my metabloism, it worked well but I thought I better get my body to do it on its own. To help I have moved into low GI foods. I am on a 3 day program myself and find it easier. But the damn gym is shut for 1.5 weeks due to chrissy and renovations. So the new year I will be back into it.
 

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Alas, I never get off my arse to do something.
Thats the hardest step in training mate. After a while lifting the weights becomes routine and routine is the key to body condition. With routine comes gains in strength and shape. And believe me once you start looking in the mirror and like what you see the motivation is right there to keep going.

Steve be careful with lifting at home, dont believe what the home exercise equipment advertisments say that its convenient not to have to go to the gym. Just getting in the car and going to the gym prepares you mind for the session starts the adrenaline pumping, well you know the rest. When the equipment is at home its easy to say oh ill do it later.

well thats enough from me Oh yeah Steve before you comment my gym is still under construction so BACK OFF mate!
 

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Im quiet happy to listen to your words of wisdom Darryn as you have been huge before and do have a lot of ideas. I know once your gym is finished you will get down there. Motivation is very high at the moment im sure I will stick to them when there at home. Only time will tell :)
 

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Great stuff mate! I will check with a mate who i used to train with as to his training equipment he had (not sure if he still has it, the roof was ripped of his house a while ago and he got rid of a lot of stuff he couldnt store) Its heavy duty gear with plenty of weights. Trust me, at 95 kilos he used to 45 degree squat 245 kilos!
 

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seeing results definatley = motivation.

Naturally, i have a fast metabolisim and dont carry much weight. (179cm, 71.5kg) unfortuantley this also means I'm what i descibe as weedy.

Well, I'm to poor atm to afford protein shakes, and to go to the gym. i cant afford home weights, and currently have none.

I have however, been sticking to a tight, and rather intense regime of crunches, pressups & tricep dips. In only a week i am seeing results, and i have to say, the more i see, the more motivated i get. When the above is not enough, i guess it will be time to look at a gym membership, or some weights of my own. I eat Red meat every night and usually exercise not long after that. also first thing in the morning before work, and again at lunchtime following a good feed. This is working much better and faster for me than when i had a gym membership 3 years ago.

once i am as toned as i can get doing what i am doing, i will be looking to bulk up.
 

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Mate take some more protein like tuna and maybe some more carbs like pasta and things this will help put on the little bit more weight also make sure you still eat 5 to 6 times a day but in smaller meals. Red meat has creatine in it but it has to be basically un cooked to get any benafits from it. Always excersise before a main meal not after this will help the body soak up all the nutrients and vitamins from your meal. You will be usually a lot stronger before tea if you have been eating the 6 meals a day you will also never really feel hungry. No point toning then bulking because you will loose the tone straight away maybe you should just bulk and train until your comfortable with the weight then cut carbs back too loose body fat. Its hard to do that because you also loose muscle. I have actually lost around 1 1.5 kg of muscle in around the last month due to not so consitant gym times and hot bloody weather. but it will only take aroung 3 weeks of flat out training to gain it back. Hope this helps out a little

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mmm thanks for that dude, the good thing is tuna and pasta are relativley cheap compared to the steak i currently eat. (yer, i'm a fillet only guy)

Hitting the beaches up north next week so my immediate goal is to get a bit more definition.
 

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I do ALOT of fitness/weights, but hardly ever at home any more... mainly at the gym, like kooky said, it is too hard to go and do it at home, when you can easily do something else.

a cheap and very effective thing to buy is a thick shipping rope. If you have a tree, tie it around so it is at least 2-3 meters.. climb up and down, with no legs, incredible for arms, and mid body. and cheap!
 

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Yeah i got a home gym thingy, one of those 2 million in one jobs but it aint made me any more muscly or slimmer yet. I keep on lookin at it an thinkin bout usein it but it's currently got about 4 tonnes of crap sittin or hangin on it.
I'd go to the gym but the closest on is about half an hour away an i'm always on fcukin here writin crap till to late most nights after workin till 6 o'clock, then gettin up at 7 to start work doesn't leave much fcukin time to get motivated.
Maybe a good new years resolution for me, 'get of me arse an get fit an muscly'.
 
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