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This has come up again in the latest Motor Mag. Now I would like to see what the opinion is reguarding putting the T series stroker into an XR8. Now remember we don't know the numbers involved eg how many, special edition or even as an option. Also include in your answer the name this machine should be given.
What would you like to see happen and why!
 

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If the T's are sitting around 260kw then the Hi spec XR8 should sit around 240kw. Sort of mid range between both. As for the name, XR8 Sprint has my 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th votes. Top name for a hi-po car IMHO.. :D
 

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Reading between the lines. What we may be talking about is a run out of excess motors??? But the way it comes across in motor mag they are talking about a limited number run of 260kw XR8s

My opinion is that it is a good thing and it should of happened a long time ago. However I do have some concerns. A while back there were rumours of a Craig Lowndes limited edition. Now I would not like to see this sort of thing happen so quick. There are other Ford racing drivers that deserve this in front of Craig.
Not sure you could go with the sprint name.
Then there is the question of "do you continue with the limited model or even introduce it as an option on future XR models"?
 

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If it's left like the ED, you could just do the limited run of 500-1000 cars or something and let folks who missed out drool like what happened with the ED Sprint.

I agree completly with what you're saying re lowndes falcon. He hasn't earned that privaledge with Ford yet. One option could be a Ford Racing XR8 Falcon and have all the Ford racers promote it. Makes everyone happy this way (I hope).. :D
 
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HSE2 you have hit the nail on the head. there are and still is a lot of OEM stock still sitting on shelves, some 5.0s (165-175kw) dating back to 1995-6. I put a suggestion to Ford that these could be used as a base for strokers. If and when we get to Mel and get the op to have a look at the stores etc, you will see what I mean.

there is also a mountain of base models from 1999 (XR's) sitting in paddocks etc that resulted from dealers not meeting there sales quota's. this was also suggested as a use for perhaps a GT model. there is in my opinion enough stock on the shelves to build such a vehicle, even in limited production. maybe a run of a thousand. (GT only). this thing does'nt have to be flash, in terms of comfort, just a base model with grunt.
 

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I'd like to know where Ford are storing 1999 Falcons???? I haven't seen any in my travels. Mid 2000 is the oldest I've seen.

The high level XR8 should be called Sprint. people already understand the name so it would make sense.
 

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I'd like to know where Ford are storing 1999 Falcons???? I haven't seen any in my travels. Mid 2000 is the oldest I've seen.

The high level XR8 should be called Sprint. people already understand the name so it would make sense.
The people that really know what the sprint is, know that the car is special because the motor is the GT motor with improvements.

To call an Au model sprint just doesn't have the same meaning to me. The motor is not from a GT rather just a T series. Shouldn't the sprint be put to rest and be remembered for what it was. You also have to remember that the GT will most likely return to be a full time model

I also don't think you can offer this motor as an option. For one reason HSV learnt this with the ss model. You end up eating into the top line performance models.
On the other hand I think there will always be people that don't want the T series type cars and want an XR that is special.
Personally even when the new V8 arrives and the old stock has gone, I would like to see a new tradition start and continue.
If the Xr is to continue as the public face of Ford Motor sport in Aust, then I would like to see it linked to the teams. I don't see a problem with each of the Ford teams having their name to a set limit of cars say 200 each. Each team, something a little different to the next. But I would only do it on the model runs, every two years
 

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I didn't think the ED Sprint was THAT special. It had a similar engine to the GT but it was still only 192kW or something like that wasn't it? The model range now is substantially different and T-Series is now the next level above XR so that is where the engine should come from - not GT. The main reason is GT must be at least 300kW, no less! That's way too much for XR market level.
 

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I didn't think the ED Sprint was THAT special. It had a similar engine to the GT but it was still only 192kW or something like that wasn't it? The model range now is substantially different and T-Series is now the next level above XR so that is where the engine should come from - not GT. The main reason is GT must be at least 300kW, no less! That's way too much for XR market level.
You miss the point. The sprint special or not was the name given to a car back in the ED model range. Its claim to fame is the fact that it had a GT engine and was a limited edition. For the reasons you just stated, you couldn't call an AU model sprint because it has no meaning or relevance to the past.
 

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Then Holden wouldn't be using Monaro. Also, tell me the GT i EB to EL was the same car as the XA-XY and previous. The issue is what do you call a performance enhanced XR8? Sprint matches perfectly (plus to be honest those GT engines weren't exactly special).
 

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Call it "XtRmn8"! :nuts: :nuts:

Nah just joking, Sprint is the go i recon, with about 240kW and a 6 speed tranny!
 

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Call it "XtRmn8"! :nuts: :nuts:

Nah just joking, Sprint is the go i recon, with about 240kW and a 6 speed tranny!
Amen and good night! Spot on in my books - love the idea. Anyone want to buy a 220kW XR8 - fully loaded!
 

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Then Holden wouldn't be using Monaro. Also, tell me the GT i EB to EL was the same car as the XA-XY and previous. The issue is what do you call a performance enhanced XR8? Sprint matches perfectly (plus to be honest those GT engines weren't exactly special).
Holden should not be using the monaro name. Once again and I could be wrong here but HSV has refused to bow to the public like Holden did and will have their own name for their version of the coupe. HSV stated that the Monaro name belonged in the past and that is where it should stay.
As far as names go, the only name Ford could remotely consider bring back would be the GT or GTHO.

These names for future cars have got to come from the heart. Why would you associate a brand new model with a car that was of a time when people scoffed at the performance arm.
 

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What about XR8 Cobra. Following the Mustang series.Maybe Cobra XR8.
I likes, I likes!!.. You could flip a coin between that and Sprint in my books. I likes 'em both!!.. XR8 Cobra, or XR8 Sprint?? How about Xplod XR8 with a kicking sound system..
 

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Holden should not be using the monaro name.

These names for future cars have got to come from the heart. Why would you associate a brand new model with a car that was of a time when people scoffed at the performance arm.
:eek: I reckon the Monaro name is spot on myself. It's a two door Holden. What else do you call it? Lumina??
As for names coming from the heart that's exactly where names like monaro, Sprint, GTHO come from. Think about it. GTHO tugs at the heart strings doesn't it. So does monaro. These names conjure up great memories of great cars. Why not link the future to the past. Heratige is a big seller these days. The mustang is the perfect example. Might not be the best car on the road for $85k, but it's a Mustang. The other cars don't even get close.

The ED XR8 Sprint was a bit "special" for it's time too. On the whole the V8 scene was pretty average in the early '90's then along comes the best ford V8 since the XC Cobra. Why not link a new "special" XR8 to that?..
 

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I like the name XR8 Sprint as it fits in with what the cars is about.
Previously we had the XR8 Sprint which was a higher spec XR8 with the extra herbs and rims and stuff. If Ford plans to do a ballsier XR8 by using the stroker then so be it, use a name that could sell a few more cars by tying it in with the previous car which had basically the same recipe.(admittedly not a toned down GT engine, but an engine the T's will have).
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:eek: I reckon the Monaro name is spot on myself. It's a two door Holden. What else do you call it? Lumina??
As for names coming from the heart that's exactly where names like monaro, Sprint, GTHO come from. Think about it. GTHO tugs at the heart strings doesn't it. So does monaro. These names conjure up great memories of great cars. Why not link the future to the past. Heratige is a big seller these days. The mustang is the perfect example. Might not be the best car on the road for $85k, but it's a Mustang. The other cars don't even get close.

The ED XR8 Sprint was a bit "special" for it's time too. On the whole the V8 scene was pretty average in the early '90's then along comes the best ford V8 since the XC Cobra. Why not link a new "special" XR8 to that?..
You don't go forward by looking back. Surely you are not suggesting that because the two cars have two doors the name fits.

In my opinion sprint does not fit the same mould has the cars you have mentioned. The cars you talk of have heritage, the sprint does not. Sprint sounds like something Toyota would use. Oh hang on they nearly did!

You want names from the heart, how about the Phase series. XR8 phase 4 and with each model the number progresses
Or even simply just Phase!
I like the cobra. That in Ford speek comes from the heart and means something. Has pedigree and race breeding.

Look my stance on this is simple. If you have the performance to call on the names of yester year then great. But this is a new Ford era. You don't cut the ties of the past and the mistakes of yesterday without a new fresh face on the best product that will have come out of Ford Aust in the last 25 years
 

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I agree with Monaro I don't know why Holden are bringing it back, it is an old fashioned name and I don't think the name has that much respect in todays motoring world.
On the name Sprint I am fine with that although I do like Cobra ( maybe they could have the trademark blue stripes), maybe they should use a new name such as Venom. :nuts:
 
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