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Dont no 4 shaw I think about 215 more manuals than autos
 

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Eureka,

Someone posted this a few months back

Model Auto Man Total
TE50 90 114 204
TS50 152 72 224
TL50 3 0 3
245 186 431

Certainly a fairly exclusive club to be in; comparable with the number of XC Cobras made in 1977/78.

My wifes' TS is a blueprint manual with Brembo's; I'm biased but I reckon thats the pick of the mix, certainly was the one on the revolving stand at the motor show. As a guestimate there were probably only 30 produced with that combination.

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Thanks KAOS...that's interesting...so, there were 224 TS50's made (in total)...and I've got number...224 !!! (I had a feeling it was one of the last because of it's build date). That's made my day! It's got to be worth a bit, don't you think?

I agree that the blueprint with the brembos looks very nice...mine is venom with the brembos (and an auto). Originally I wanted to buy a manual, until I drove one! I have NEVER known drive line shunt like it (if that's the correct term)! Still would have bought it though, had I not come across an auto...
 

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Eureka,

Never quite got to the bottom of how they numbered the cars, ours is #184 which was a May 2002 build.

I think the last car built was September 2002 - vague recollection that I might have read somewhere on the FPV site that it was John Bowes personal car.

I think over the longer term they will all hold value pretty well, in whatever configuration. The auto in the TS appeared to be better value, as the auto in a TE cost more than the manual, in the TS they were the same price.

The driveline snatch appears to be worse for some cars than others, I don't find ours too bad, except for light throttle idling in places like car parks, tend to use the clutch to feather it, which stops the problem.

Car is a country car, so no peak hour jams to worry about!

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Does anybody know how many TE 50 Series 2 were made,in my opinion they were a better vehical than the T3.The reason being the T2 had Fairmont dash with climate control while the T3 reverted back to the basic XR instruments.
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Re: Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

GTP 320 said:
Does anybody know how many TE 50 Series 2 were made,in my opinion they were a better vechical than the T3.The reason being the T2 had Fairmont dash with climate control while the T3 reverted back to the basic XR instruments.
Cheers John
Thats why i chose a TS50 in the T3 range, was originally going to have a TE. But as for saying the T2 was a better car, hmmm, have you driven a T3 Stroker, mate i would have gone without the Climate control and dash for that
 

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GTP 320: not too sure what you mean...but just to clarify...the T3 TS50 does have the fairmont interior (and c/control)...the T3 TE50 is based on the XR interior (and air con only). I agree with TS50 though, (imo) I would choose a T3 TE50 over any of the T2's...the T3 engine is a beaut...
 

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Re: Re: How many T3 TS50s were made?

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GTP 320: not too sure what you mean...but just to clarify...the T3 TS50 does have the fairmont interior (and c/control)...the T3 TE50 is based on the XR interior (and air con only). I agree with TS50 though, (imo) I would choose a T3 TE50 over any of the T2's...the T3 engine is a beaut...
Obviously my sentiments exactly. I haven't driven a T2 but looking at both cars on paper the T3 without a doubt is a better package. I have to aggree that my TE50 is a little bare bones on the inside. But i think that the full colour coded leather interior and Momo wheel and shifter make up for the std xr8 dash/aircon.

No offence intended to T2 owners, it's just that Tickford designed and engineered a better sports sedan in the T3 and gave the aging 302 windsor a great send off.

Matt.
 

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That is right, mechanically the T3 is far superior to the T2.

Here is a reminder for those that have forgoten about What Goes into the T3 'Stroker' Engine.

The 5.6-litre V8 is built at Tickford using a tried and tested "Windsor"
block now boasting an all-new crankshaft, ported cylinder head with high
performance springs and valves, billet machined connecting rods, lightweight
pistons with fully floating pins, a revised camshaft profile, an 82 mm
diameter throttle body, three-piece high flow inlet manifold and conical air
cleaner with dedicated mass air flow (MAF) sensor.

Crankshaft:
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The 5.0-litre crankshaft provides a 76.2mm (3.00 inch) stroke. The new
crankshaft extends the stroke to 86.4mm (3.4 inch), increasing engine
capacity to 5.6 litres. A girdle is fitted, interconnecting all of the
main bearing caps to improve crankshaft and cylinder block rigidity and
cope with the higher stress conditions of a longer stroke.

Connecting Rod:
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As the stroke of the crankshaft is increased, it is essential the connecting
rod and piston still remain within the bore dimensions of the carryover
5.0-litre block. As a result, the connecting rod is a new part with the big
end to little end bore center distance revised and a new piston to suit.
Additionally, the new connecting rod is an H section part machined from a
billet for increased strength to cater for power increases.

Piston:
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A new short skirt piston is used to provide clearance to the new connecting
rod and is a low friction, high load design to take the increased gas
pressures. Compression ratio is 9.6:1

Once the increased capacity and performance potential has been achieved
through "stroking", it then becomes necessary to match other components
to the equivalent performance capability. This requires improving the
airflow capacity of the intake and exhaust systems:

Camshaft:
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For every revolution the engine now consumes 12 per cent more charge air
because of the increase in stroke. The camshaft has been revised to increase
valve opening duration, resulting in better airflow management into and out
of the cylinders.

Cylinder Heads:
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These are the same heads as used in the 220 kW engine with modified
combustion chambers, increased valve sizes and 1.7:1 ratio roller rockers.

Intake Manifold:
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A new manifold increases airflow into the cylinder heads

Air cleaner, throttle body and intake ducting:
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Increased flow capability has been achieved by the adoption of a Mustang
style air cleaner with larger ducting and a significant increase in throttle
body bore (up from 70 mm in the 220 kW engine to 82 mm in this application).

Exhaust System:
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The ceramic coated 4-1 tubular headers and 1.7-litre catalysts provide sufficient
airflow capacity to match this engine's output.

Synthetic engine oil and an extra engine oil cooler ensure the engine is
protected in all operating conditions.

Grabbed straight of a website I found about the T3...
 

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What GT320 meant was that the interior of both the series I and II TE's were based on the fairmont, wheras the T3 TE's were based on the XR interior.
 

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Gee i certainly caused a good discussion point hear,in fact TS50 is right by what i ment.I do realize that the T3 had more power with the stroker,but my TE50 T2 that i had had some mods and the output was 240kw.
Cheers John
 
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