IL6 Induction

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Nipper

Discussion Starter · Jun 5, 2001

Hi Guys:

Sorry if this is old ground however I am looking for information on changing the standard airbox setup on my ED IL6. Have tried SS Inductions but they have only done work for the EL onwards.

I already run K & N Filter but want to see if getting more air into this engine will give me further benefit. Have seen excellant results on the induction on an EF. (Up to 8 KW's).

All info appreciated...

Nipper..

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strife

· #2 · Jun 5, 2001

aunger have a same/similar setup to ss inductions
see this thread http://discussions.fordforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2540

the application guide says from EF-AU 6 and 8

Wulos

· #3 · Jun 5, 2001

I would suggest you pay a visit to Rampage up in Newcastle.

HSE2

· #4 · Jun 5, 2001

I emailed those guys today. Hang on I will post their reply !

HSE2

· #5 · Jun 5, 2001

Hi Ian,
Thanks for your enquiry.
The part number for the Ram Air induction kit to suit the AU2 XR8 is RAI2087.
The product is available from Autobarn Stores nationally, or Repco stores nationally

HSE2

· #6 · Jun 5, 2001

Strife Do you know the difference between the ss product and the Aunger product?

strife

· #7 · Jun 5, 2001

the ls1s are exactly the same.

The ssinductions page says from EF on.

Could you not fab your own ? Take some ideas from the ss inductions site, and with a pipe and your dremel you can do anything :wink2:

http://www.ssinductions.com.au/holden.htm#vtv85.7

Nipper

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 6, 2001

Thanks for the info Guys.

I'm looking to actually getting more air to the throttle body by increasing the pipe "from" the airbox. Has anyone seen this on an EB - ED before?? I have seen the mandrel bent metal version on the EF and its the ducks nuts...

HSE2

· #9 · Jun 7, 2001

Nipper In motor Mag there is an ad for a new type of airbox filter arrangement. BM something I can't remember. I don't have a copy of the mag, maybe one of the other guys might get the details for you. They mention forcing the air and it looks like it fits where the airbox used to be!

XR_Strider_GuY

· #10 · Jun 18, 2001

HSE2 said:
Hi Ian,
Thanks for your enquiry.
The part number for the Ram Air induction kit to suit the AU2 XR8 is RAI2087.
The product is available from Autobarn Stores nationally, or Repco stores nationally

I went to Repco in Penrith when i asked about a cold air induction kit for an EF they didn't know what i was talking about and they said "we only stock standard stuff" ediots.

I am really keen on purchasing an induction setup (need abit more power) and i'd like to do it very very soon, but i don't know where i can order it in from. I don't want to get it my self from a place as i've heard bad stories of people paying the money and getting jack.

Any suggestions what place will stock these cold air induction setups for an EF.

strife

· #11 · Jun 18, 2001

EF_Falcon_GuY said:
I went to Repco in Penrith when i asked about a cold air induction kit for an EF they didn't know what i was talking about and they said "we only stock standard stuff" ediots.

I am really keen on purchasing an induction setup (need abit more power) and i'd like to do it very very soon, but i don't know where i can order it in from. I don't want to get it my self from a place as i've heard bad stories of people paying the money and getting jack.

Any suggestions what place will stock these cold air induction setups for an EF.

MyCar at Penrith had the had these not sure which models they had in stock but give them a bell

XR_Strider_GuY

· #12 · Jun 18, 2001

Thanks Strife,
They do sell it for EF Falcons $305.00 and it's a DIY installation. Penrith is near my place as well which is good. Looks like i'll have one by the end of this week. This should make by target of 120kw at the wheels closer.

strife

· #13 · Jun 18, 2001

EF_Falcon_GuY said:
Thanks Strife,
They do sell it for EF Falcons $305.00 and it's a DIY installation. Penrith is near my place as well which is good. Looks like i'll have one by the end of this week. This should make by target of 120kw at the wheels closer.

sweet I used to have one the installation is fairly easy about 10 mins with out instructions but I would think that aunger would have made up some good instructions for the kit.

XR_Strider_GuY

· #14 · Jun 18, 2001

Yeah i really hoping it doesn't need drilling or new holes anywhere, as for starters i don't have a power drill, and a hand drill with a big ass drill bit ain't guna help.

10 minutes should be cool i don't mind it longer as long as no new holes. I figured it's pretty expensive for somethin that i might engineer at home with good ol victa pipes but i'm wiery of cutting stuff especially drilling into panels.

strife

· #15 · Jun 18, 2001

The only cutting on the ls1 intake was to trim some plastic around top of the radiator, all factory holes where used

XR_Strider_GuY

· #16 · Jun 18, 2001

Cool, in theory the EF doesn't have that as much pastic bits like i've seen on LS1's.
BTW did they say how much power you'll gain out of it, i've heard up to 5kw at the wheels.

Strife did you feel any difference???

strife

· #17 · Jun 18, 2001

It was a definate improvement over the HSV Cold Air Induction but not as much as the blower

If its anything like the ssinductions one and I bet its exactly the same one they claim 8-10kw oh and they say fitting time is 45 minutes

http://www.ssinductions.com.au/ford.htm

HSE2

· #18 · Jun 18, 2001

EF_Falcon_GuY said:
I went to Repco in Penrith when i asked about a cold air induction kit for an EF they didn't know what i was talking about and they said "we only stock standard stuff" ediots.

I am really keen on purchasing an induction setup (need abit more power) and i'd like to do it very very soon, but i don't know where i can order it in from. I don't want to get it my self from a place as i've heard bad stories of people paying the money and getting jack.

Any suggestions what place will stock these cold air induction setups for an EF.

I finally got around to checking these guys out late last week, They want $365 for the unit from aunger for my car. Had the same trouble with Autobarn. They had to ring the mailand to find out what i was talking about. Also an interesting article on Autospeed you should check out. For the Au they seem to suggest the use of the EF top section of the air box!

EDFUTURA

· #19 · Jun 23, 2001

G'day Nipper,

I've got an I6 ED Futura which is now about 50% EF (I'll get back to that) - as far as improving the ducting on the original ED setup, I had replaced the rubber duct which runs from the airbox to the throttle body with a rubber elbow, short section of aluminium pipe and couple of short lengths of silicon duct (rubber elbow and silicon duct 3 inch inside diameter and aluminium pipe 3 inch outside diameter with about 3mm wall thickness). The reason is that if you look inside the airbox end of the factory rubber duct you'll see it has a sort of ventury shaped restriction moulded into it! that means that although the throttle body inlet and airbox outlet are about 3 inch diameter, the duct is restricted to about 2.5 inches!!!

Another mod you could make is to fit an EF/EL type airbox (same as V8) - which will fit into the same place as your current airbox - and adapt it's inlet to be your outlet (fit ducting to the throttle body) then remove the rubber outlet adaptor in the lid and reverse the lid - which will make the outlet opening point at the passenger side front corner of the bonnet. Then if you trim away some of the rubber seal strip under the bonnet there, you should be getting a good supply of cool air.

I fitted a complete EF BBM Intake setup a couple of years ago. I got the complete thing from Ford Power in Perth for about $700. With other bits and pieces it all cost $900 once it was on. I had no trouble installing it - the trickiest part was swapping over the loom and even that really wasn't tricky as such - all the sensors etc are the same, just slightly different locations - ie. I just took the loom off the ED manifold and fitted it to the EF one.

Because I've had all sorts of trouble locating a BBM Solenoid Valve (the critter that operates the runner switching) it's still operating with the runners locked on long path. Even in just that configuration it improved performance noticeably - bottom and mid range better and top same as ED (that should improve once I have a solenoid and get the damned thing working as it should).

The BBM Solenoid should arrive any day now and then I've just got to organise an rpm switch to work it.

For other poor sods who are trying to find these, they live behind the windscreen washer bottle on EF and EL (don't know about AU).

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Nipper

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 23, 2001

Thanks EDFUTURA, mate your a legend. I was looking at going to the EL/EF airbox and now I know how to do it.

Did you find much better throttle response with opening up the ducting from the box to the throttle body, this is where I feel most improvement will come from.

I have looked at the Rampod systems however on all I have seen and from personal experience in the past. They just increase induction noise which gives the impression of more throttle response.

Nipper.......

By the way I would love to see a picture of the engine setup in your beast.........

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