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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even
SAT in a new Mustang.

Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang
newer than 1993.

But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from
work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford dealer's
lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a look-see. I thought, if
they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well have a seat and try one on for
size.

I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for me) and
then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure enough, some kid
drone comes out of the building and hails me.

His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told him that
I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a
5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97.

Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to the
4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)

We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned
that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new blue
for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it was sold right away.")
No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, we have one on order.") Um, no,
Sonic Blue isn't an option this year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying
to see it.)

Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
more.

I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape
will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model.

Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit in a
new Mustang.

dwight
1993 Time Warp
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
dwight wrote:
> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even
> SAT in a new Mustang.
>


Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell
happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1 =)

> Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang
> newer than 1993.
>


I can still only say '91.

> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from
> work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford dealer's
> lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a look-see. I thought, if
> they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well have a seat and try one on for
> size.
>
> I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for me) and
> then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure enough, some kid
> drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>
> His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told him that
> I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a
> 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97.
>


D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!!

> Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to the
> 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>


Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of pain
like the idiot he was?

> We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned
> that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new blue
> for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it was sold right away.")
> No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, we have one on order.") Um, no,
> Sonic Blue isn't an option this year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying
> to see it.)
>
> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
> that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
> about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
> more.
>


At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I
would have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger that
day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the points on
'95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"

> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape
> will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model.
>
> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit in a
> new Mustang.
>


I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.

Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. His
empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.

--
Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> dwight wrote:
>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last
>> even SAT in a new Mustang.
>>

>
> Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell
> happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1
> =)


I've sat in new ones, but I've never ridden in (let alone driven) a
newer one than my own.

>> Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a
>> Mustang newer than 1993.
>>

>
> I can still only say '91.
>
>> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off
>> from work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a
>> Ford dealer's lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a
>> look-see. I thought, if they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well
>> have a seat and try one on for size.
>>
>> I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for
>> me) and then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure
>> enough, some kid drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>>
>> His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told
>> him that I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I
>> understand. I had a 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it
>> was a '97.
>>

>
> D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!!


LOL!

>> Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover
>> to the 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>>

>
> Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of
> pain like the idiot he was?


Sounds like he needed a swat to the head with one of those rusty
camshafts.

>> We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I
>> mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to
>> see the new blue for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it
>> was sold right away.") No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah,
>> we have one on order.") Um, no, Sonic Blue isn't an option this
>> year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying to see it.)


Wow. Talking colors instead of performance. How sweet. ;)

>> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he
>> said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I
>> know a bit about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a
>> heck of a lot more.
>>

>
> At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I
> would have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger
> that day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the
> points on '95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"


How about something simple like "Blow me, moron."?

>> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which
>> drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on
>> the Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward
>> this new model.
>>
>> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did
>> sit in a new Mustang.


dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids.

> I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
> should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.


The Freestyle is based on the XC90:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/

> Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that.
> His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.


Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much
better for direct comparisons.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
"Wound Up" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> dwight wrote:
>>
>> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
>> that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
>> about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
>> more.
>>

>
> At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I would
> have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger that day, I
> would have said something like "yeah, and setting the points on '95 and up
> 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"


I couldn't help myself. I laughed out loud in his face. It's bad enough to
lie, bad enough to argue about the lie, but then to backtrack and give me
the old "just kidding" line, I couldn't help it. And that laugh told him
just how much I thought of his Mustang smarts.

>> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
>> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the
>> Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this
>> new model.
>>
>> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit
>> in a new Mustang.
>>

>
> I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
> should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.
>
> Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. His
> empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.
>
> --
> Wound Up
> ThunderSnake #65


Well, there's no stinkin' way that I'm buying a car from an idiot like that,
when I'm ready to buy. I spent 20 years in sales, myself, and my number one
rule was always "Know your product." He's not worth the commission or my
time.

dwight
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> dwight wrote:
>>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last
>>> even SAT in a new Mustang.


> dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids.
>
>> I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
>> should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.

>
> The Freestyle is based on the XC90:
> http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/
>
>> Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that.
>> His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.

>
> Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much
> better for direct comparisons.


You're probably right, Joe. Okay, you're right.

If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, I'll be at
a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February 4 - 12, and I'll
see about getting Jean down there to look at the Freestyle and other
assorted choices. She loves the Escape, but it's getting more and more
trucklike. I think she'll be interested in the new trend toward CUVs...

If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in the
Mustang.

dwight
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
dwight wrote:

> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape
> will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model.
>


http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/

"The Freestyle is the most important derivative of the vehicle
architecture Ford has borrowed from Volvo, a carlike crossover sport-ute
that arrives just in ..."

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/02/22/000751.html

"For the Freestyle is built on the same platform as the Five Hundred and
so could logically be thought of as the Five Hundred wagon, but the two
cars use no common sheetmetal. The Freestyle's styling cues are
unmistakably Ford SUV, but even a few minutes behind the wheel reveals
it to most definitely not be any sort of truck. It fits into that
nebulous catch-all category of ``crossover vehicle.'' In the Ford
extended family, the vehicle closest to the Freestyle in intent and
execution is the Volvo XC70."

--
"So the new (h)(1)(C) overrides the old exclusion in (h)(1)(B) for the
purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that
could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)." -
U.S. Legislature
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Joe wrote:
> Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>dwight wrote:
>>
>>>Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last
>>>even SAT in a new Mustang.
>>>

>>
>>Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell
>>happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1
>>=)

>
>
> I've sat in new ones, but I've never ridden in (let alone driven) a
> newer one than my own.
>


I want to do like Stu did, rent one, and put the boots to it.

>
>>>Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a
>>>Mustang newer than 1993.
>>>

>>
>>I can still only say '91.
>>
>>
>>>But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off
>>>from work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a
>>>Ford dealer's lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a
>>>look-see. I thought, if they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well
>>>have a seat and try one on for size.
>>>
>>>I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for
>>>me) and then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure
>>>enough, some kid drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>>>
>>>His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told
>>>him that I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I
>>>understand. I had a 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it
>>>was a '97.
>>>

>>
>>D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!!

>
>
> LOL!
>
>
>>>Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover
>>>to the 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>>>

>>
>>Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of
>>pain like the idiot he was?

>
>
> Sounds like he needed a swat to the head with one of those rusty
> camshafts.
>


In his case, a four-sectional rusty cam -staff- fashioned out of 4.6
DOHC cams.

>
>>>We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I
>>>mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to
>>>see the new blue for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it
>>>was sold right away.") No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah,
>>>we have one on order.") Um, no, Sonic Blue isn't an option this
>>>year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying to see it.)

>>

>
> Wow. Talking colors instead of performance. How sweet. ;)
>


Really. PRETTY COLORS, huh? Moron!

>
>>>Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he
>>>said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I
>>>know a bit about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a
>>>heck of a lot more.
>>>

>>
>>At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I
>>would have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger
>>that day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the
>>points on '95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"

>
>
> How about something simple like "Blow me, moron."?
>


Simple, but elegant. As you know, I tend to be wordy. I do need to
work on that.

>
>>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which
>>>drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on
>>>the Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward
>>>this new model.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did
>>>sit in a new Mustang.

>>

>
> dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids.
>
>
>>I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
>>should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.

>
>
> The Freestyle is based on the XC90:
> http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/
>
>
>>Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that.
>>His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.

>
>
> Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is much
> better for direct comparisons.


Yes. And there are usually pretty girls flitting about in cute little
outfits near the zoomy cars, which are much better than the "I know the
brochure real good" idiots.

--
Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
dwight wrote:
> "Wound Up" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>dwight wrote:
>>
>>>Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
>>>that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
>>>about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
>>>more.
>>>

>>
>>At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I would
>>have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger that day, I
>>would have said something like "yeah, and setting the points on '95 and up
>>5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"

>
>
> I couldn't help myself. I laughed out loud in his face. It's bad enough to
> lie, bad enough to argue about the lie, but then to backtrack and give me
> the old "just kidding" line, I couldn't help it. And that laugh told him
> just how much I thought of his Mustang smarts.
>


Good for you! What a maroon, this guy.

>
>>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
>>>tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the
>>>Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this
>>>new model.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit
>>>in a new Mustang.
>>>

>>
>>I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
>>should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.
>>
>>Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that. His
>>empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.
>>
>>--
>>Wound Up
>>ThunderSnake #65

>
>
> Well, there's no stinkin' way that I'm buying a car from an idiot like that,
> when I'm ready to buy. I spent 20 years in sales, myself, and my number one
> rule was always "Know your product." He's not worth the commission or my
> time.
>


You're 100% right. I sincerely hope he at least learned something that
day. People who buy these cars... know these cars...

--
Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
"dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> But I'm still intrigued by the new model.


The new Mustang completely won me over with the first concept pics and I
still feel the same way about it today. As soon as I can afford a new GT...
--

Mark
'99 Civic Si

**********
For those who don't know/remember me, I'm not a ricer (IMO) so no flames
please. Except for Joe, who once wanted to run over me. LOL! ;-)
That is, if the Joe in this thread is the same Joe I remember, a ZZ Top fan.

My Civic (pics taken 6 months ago)...

http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 001.jpg
http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 004.jpg
http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 007.jpg
http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 010.jpg

Still bone stock. License plate now reads, "RSH 2112".

Those of you who do remember me, hi. ;-)
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
"WindsorFox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> dwight wrote:
>
>> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
>> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the
>> Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this
>> new model.
>>

>
> http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/
>
> "The Freestyle is the most important derivative of the vehicle
> architecture Ford has borrowed from Volvo, a carlike crossover sport-ute
> that arrives just in ..."
>
> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/02/22/000751.html
>
> "For the Freestyle is built on the same platform as the Five Hundred and
> so could logically be thought of as the Five Hundred wagon, but the two
> cars use no common sheetmetal. The Freestyle's styling cues are
> unmistakably Ford SUV, but even a few minutes behind the wheel reveals it
> to most definitely not be any sort of truck. It fits into that nebulous
> catch-all category of ``crossover vehicle.'' In the Ford extended family,
> the vehicle closest to the Freestyle in intent and execution is the Volvo
> XC70."
>
> --
> "So the new (h)(1)(C) overrides the old exclusion in (h)(1)(B) for the
> purposes of (a)(1)(C) only, thereby applying (a)(1)(C) to anything that
> could have been sent via the Internet (possibly even if it wasn't)." -
> U.S. Legislature


Thanks for that! I think it's a good-looking vehicle, and this makes it
sound better for Jean, too.

She still talks fondly of our old '84 Chevy Cavalier station wagon - all
glass, no blocked sight lines. The Freestyle looks like a station wagon that
sits up high like a sport ute, only better.

dwight
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
"Mark Gonzales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> But I'm still intrigued by the new model.

>
> The new Mustang completely won me over with the first concept pics and I
> still feel the same way about it today. As soon as I can afford a new
> GT...
> --
>
> Mark
> '99 Civic Si
>
> **********
> For those who don't know/remember me, I'm not a ricer (IMO) so no flames
> please. Except for Joe, who once wanted to run over me. LOL! ;-)
> That is, if the Joe in this thread is the same Joe I remember, a ZZ Top
> fan.
>
> My Civic (pics taken 6 months ago)...
>
> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 001.jpg
> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 004.jpg
> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 007.jpg
> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 010.jpg
>
> Still bone stock. License plate now reads, "RSH 2112".
>
> Those of you who do remember me, hi. ;-)


Nice to see you've still got that car. You're in danger of becoming a Honda
dinosaur!

I'd still like to eventually order in a GT convertible to replace CFrog. Now
that I finally have a garage...

dwight
www.tfrog93.com
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
It's old home week on ramfm.

Joe beat me to it, the car show suggestion. If Philly's is yet to
come, you should go. (You might see T.O. moonlighting as a spokesmodel
on one of those turntables. Or D. McN? (Didn't one of them retire
midseason?)) My wife, one daughter, and I went to the SF version on
Thanksgiving night. I really enjoy getting to park my rear in all the
high end brands without interruption by perspiring faux friendly sales
personnel. (No offense to sales droids; it's a tough racket and
somebody's gotta do it.) I cam away almost believing a VW could be
worth $80,000, and also that a BMW 7-whatever could not.

180 Out
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Sounds like Brian Hoskins Ford to me :)

Dave

"dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even
> SAT in a new Mustang.
>
> Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang
> newer than 1993.
>
> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from
> work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford dealer's
> lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a look-see. I thought,

if
> they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well have a seat and try one on for
> size.
>
> I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for me)

and
> then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure enough, some

kid
> drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>
> His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told him

that
> I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a
> 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97.
>
> Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to

the
> 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>
> We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned
> that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new

blue
> for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it was sold right

away.")
> No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, we have one on order.") Um,

no,
> Sonic Blue isn't an option this year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm

dying
> to see it.)
>
> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
> that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
> about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
> more.
>
> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the Escape
> will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new model.
>
> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit in

a
> new Mustang.
>
> dwight
> 1993 Time Warp
>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
"dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> dwight wrote:
>>>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I
>>>> last even SAT in a new Mustang.

>
>> dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids.
>>
>>> I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best.
>>> Twerp should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.

>>
>> The Freestyle is based on the XC90:
>> http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/
>>
>>> Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that.
>>> His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.

>>
>> Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is
>> much better for direct comparisons.

>
> You're probably right, Joe. Okay, you're right.
>
> If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, I'll
> be at a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February 4 -
> 12, and I'll see about getting Jean down there to look at the
> Freestyle and other assorted choices. She loves the Escape, but it's
> getting more and more trucklike. I think she'll be interested in the
> new trend toward CUVs...


Has the Escape really changed that much? I thought it was basically the
same as before, but what do I know about lil' FWDrivers?

> If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in
> the Mustang.
>
> dwight


Even if there's a crowd around the Mustang (which there shouldn't be at
this point), get in line and sit in one. They're neat.

And while you're at the show, check out the concepts from everybody.
I'll be waiting for the FrogReport.

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in news:43CC6A03.9020002
@your.disposal:

> Joe wrote:
>> Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>dwight wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last
>>>>even SAT in a new Mustang.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Cripes, it's been 15 years for me... has it? Yes! What the hell
>>>happened? Oh ... right, in late '95, I got cantankerous old beast #1
>>>=)

>>
>>
>> I've sat in new ones, but I've never ridden in (let alone driven) a
>> newer one than my own.
>>

>
> I want to do like Stu did, rent one, and put the boots to it.


Good idea. A rental is a pretty good way to check it out. Your time is
your own and you don't have the droid bothering you.

>>>>Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a
>>>>Mustang newer than 1993.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I can still only say '91.
>>>
>>>
>>>>But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off
>>>>from work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a
>>>>Ford dealer's lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a
>>>>look-see. I thought, if they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well
>>>>have a seat and try one on for size.
>>>>
>>>>I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for
>>>>me) and then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure
>>>>enough, some kid drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>>>>
>>>>His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told
>>>>him that I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I
>>>>understand. I had a 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me

it
>>>>was a '97.
>>>>
>>>
>>>D'OH idiot alert WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOP!!

>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>
>>>>Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the

changeover
>>>>to the 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>>>>
>>>
>>>Did he then viciously stomp on his own foot, and laugh in tears of
>>>pain like the idiot he was?

>>
>>
>> Sounds like he needed a swat to the head with one of those rusty
>> camshafts.
>>

>
> In his case, a four-sectional rusty cam -staff- fashioned out of 4.6
> DOHC cams.


I dunno, a nice big fat one from a 460 might make more of an impact.
Literally.

>>>>We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I
>>>>mentioned that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to
>>>>see the new blue for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but

it
>>>>was sold right away.") No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah,
>>>>we have one on order.") Um, no, Sonic Blue isn't an option this
>>>>year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm dying to see it.)
>>>

>>
>> Wow. Talking colors instead of performance. How sweet. ;)
>>

>
> Really. PRETTY COLORS, huh? Moron!
>
>>>>Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he
>>>>said that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I
>>>>know a bit about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know

a
>>>>heck of a lot more.
>>>>
>>>
>>>At this point, I would not have been able to stifle mocking him. I
>>>would have walked away laughing. If I'd been quick on the trigger
>>>that day, I would have said something like "yeah, and setting the
>>>points on '95 and up 5.0 Mustangs is a bitch, isn't it?"

>>
>>
>> How about something simple like "Blow me, moron."?
>>

>
> Simple, but elegant. As you know, I tend to be wordy. I do need to
> work on that.


I think both styles have their places.

>>>>I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which
>>>>drone tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease

on
>>>>the Escape will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her

toward
>>>>this new model.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did
>>>>sit in a new Mustang.
>>>

>>
>> dwight, do it at the next car show and avoid the droids.
>>
>>
>>>I don't know about the Volvo thing, but it's was for the best. Twerp
>>>should learn his ABC's before he tries to sell cars.

>>
>>
>> The Freestyle is based on the XC90:
>> http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0410_ford_freestyle/
>>
>>
>>>Try again, Dwight. I have faith you've got to do better than that.
>>>His empty-headed suit was not worthy of your enthusiasm.

>>
>>
>> Unless you need a test drive, dealers are morons. The car show is

much
>> better for direct comparisons.

>
> Yes. And there are usually pretty girls flitting about in cute little
> outfits near the zoomy cars, which are much better than the "I know

the
> brochure real good" idiots.


Great point. If you have to deal with droids, much better to deal with
those kind.

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
[email protected] wrote in news:1137512712.609773.61000
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> It's old home week on ramfm.


There ya go. Wonder who else is lurking around..

> Joe beat me to it, the car show suggestion. If Philly's is yet to
> come, you should go. (You might see T.O. moonlighting as a

spokesmodel
> on one of those turntables. Or D. McN? (Didn't one of them retire
> midseason?)) My wife, one daughter, and I went to the SF version on
> Thanksgiving night. I really enjoy getting to park my rear in all the
> high end brands without interruption by perspiring faux friendly sales
> personnel. (No offense to sales droids; it's a tough racket and
> somebody's gotta do it.)


Actually, I've been wondering about that. Why can't cars be sold like
clothes or groceries?

> I cam away almost believing a VW could be
> worth $80,000, and also that a BMW 7-whatever could not.
>
> 180 Out


Yah, it's amazing what's happened to the auto industry. Cheap-ass
Bimmers, Posh (but still cheep) VWs, Ford junk bonds, GM teetering on
the brink, etc. What's next?

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:32:55 -0500, "dwight" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Mark Gonzales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> "dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> But I'm still intrigued by the new model.

>>
>> The new Mustang completely won me over with the first concept pics and I
>> still feel the same way about it today. As soon as I can afford a new
>> GT...
>> --
>>
>> Mark
>> '99 Civic Si
>>
>> **********
>> For those who don't know/remember me, I'm not a ricer (IMO) so no flames
>> please. Except for Joe, who once wanted to run over me. LOL! ;-)
>> That is, if the Joe in this thread is the same Joe I remember, a ZZ Top
>> fan.
>>
>> My Civic (pics taken 6 months ago)...
>>
>> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 001.jpg
>> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 004.jpg
>> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 007.jpg
>> http://www.lt-solutions.com/images/Picture 010.jpg
>>
>> Still bone stock. License plate now reads, "RSH 2112".
>>
>> Those of you who do remember me, hi. ;-)

>
>Nice to see you've still got that car. You're in danger of becoming a Honda
>dinosaur!
>
>I'd still like to eventually order in a GT convertible to replace CFrog. Now
>that I finally have a garage...
>
>dwight
>www.tfrog93.com
>



Dwight,

Im new here, been looking over your website, and after reading a
couple of your "rants" about aggressive drivers, etc. I tend to agree
more than I realized with your thoughts... Now, while I'm
complimenting you, don't go getting the "big head" After all, you've
got that 12 year old 'stang to consider.... I'm sorry you didn't get
a chance to sit in a new one <yet> but it'll happen... If I lived
closer to you, you could sit in mine, but just don't ask to take it
for a drive... <wink> You know how it is with those special cars. I
graduated from high school the same year mustangs came out, and back
then, it was all I could do to just dream of owning one. Then, by the
time I could afford $1900, along came a wife and kids, there went
that, as you say, for the FWD minivan <sigh> Well, the last kid
finished college about 5 years ago, and I've owned a 'stang since
1998. The first one was a 6, I learned the hard way, all the rest
have been GT's. Like you, I'll always ( I hope) own one and it's my
link to those good old days back when money was the only thing
stopping me from my dream... Now, that "ain't no reason not to have
fun" so.... I bought the first 05 GT in Alexandria, LA. took
possession of it on October 18, 2005 and, yup, It's redfire
clearcoat metallic with light gray leather interior... I haven't
really pushed it past my limits yet, but it does have a way of getting
a little faster than intended at times... Just wanted to let you know
I enjoyed your website and that there are other "old farts" out here
who feel much the same way as you :)

Have a great one,

John
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> If I don't manage to have a sit-down in a new Mustang by Spring, I'll
>> be at a couple of shows. The Philadelphia Auto Show is February 4 -
>> 12, and I'll see about getting Jean down there to look at the
>> Freestyle and other assorted choices. She loves the Escape, but it's
>> getting more and more trucklike. I think she'll be interested in the
>> new trend toward CUVs...

>
> Has the Escape really changed that much? I thought it was basically the
> same as before, but what do I know about lil' FWDrivers?


No, it's still the same Escape (2004 model). Optional 4WD with a flip of a
switch, but basically FWD most of the time. But there's no mistaking that
it's a truck.

>> If we get there early enough, I may get a chance to actually sit in
>> the Mustang.
>>
>> dwight

>
> Even if there's a crowd around the Mustang (which there shouldn't be at
> this point), get in line and sit in one. They're neat.
>
> And while you're at the show, check out the concepts from everybody.
> I'll be waiting for the FrogReport.
>
> Joe
> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


You got it. With pictures

dwight
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Wound Up <[email protected]> wrote in news:43CC6A03.9020002
> @your.disposal:
>
>>
>> I want to do like Stu did, rent one, and put the boots to it.

>
> Good idea. A rental is a pretty good way to check it out. Your time is
> your own and you don't have the droid bothering you.


Jean's pressing me to go to Phoenix with her in April (business trip). She's
baiting me, saying we can rent a Mustang there.

Looks like I can book a Mustang convertible, but it's probably a six and
definitely an automatic. Still... Looks like I'm goin' to Phoenix.

:()
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
"Deputy Dog" <[email protected](removethis)sibbett.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Sounds like Brian Hoskins Ford to me :)
>
> Dave


Yup.

:()


> "dwight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Bless me, Mother, for I have sinned. It's been 12 years since I last even
>> SAT in a new Mustang.
>>
>> Yes, it occurs to me that this is true - I haven't been inside a Mustang
>> newer than 1993.
>>
>> But I'm still intrigued by the new model. Driving along on a day off from
>> work, I saw a beautiful yellow GT sitting on the corner of a Ford
>> dealer's
>> lot. So I pulled in and got out of my car to have a look-see. I thought,

> if
>> they had one in the showroom, I'd damn well have a seat and try one on
>> for
>> size.
>>
>> I checked out the yellow (pretty car, but yellow's not the color for me)

> and
>> then walked over toward the other Mustangs on the lot. Sure enough, some

> kid
>> drone comes out of the building and hails me.
>>
>> His first question was whether I was trading in TFrog. (No.) I told him

> that
>> I was keeping that one forever, and he said, "Yeah, I understand. I had a
>> 5.0 myself." I asked what year, and he told me it was a '97.
>>
>> Um, no, the 5.0 was in the '94-'95 models, but '96 was the changeover to

> the
>> 4.6 modular V8. (He actually tried to argue the point.)
>>
>> We talked about a Torch Red GT (automatic) sitting there, and I mentioned
>> that I preferred the darker Red Fire. I also had wanted to see the new

> blue
>> for 2006 ("Oh, the Windveil Blue? We had one, but it was sold right

> away.")
>> No, the darker blue. ("The Sonic Blue. Yeah, we have one on order.") Um,

> no,
>> Sonic Blue isn't an option this year... (It's now Vista Blue, and I'm

> dying
>> to see it.)
>>
>> Okay, that was enough toying with the drone. The kicker was when he said
>> that he was "just testing you with that 5.0 thing." I mean, I know a bit
>> about Mustangs, but if my job was selling them, I'd know a heck of a lot
>> more.
>>
>> I brushed him off and headed over to check out the Freestyle (which drone
>> tells me is built on a Volvo platform - true?). Jean's lease on the
>> Escape
>> will be up soon enough, and I'm trying to steer her toward this new
>> model.
>>
>> Anyway, I left disgusted with salespeople and, of course, never did sit
>> in

> a
>> new Mustang.
>>
>> dwight
>> 1993 Time Warp
>>
>>

>
>
>
 
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