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Here's my side of the story and many other antiSUVers. In the 1970s, oil dependence and pollution were serious problems. Laws were made to improve both of these. Cars got smaller, but also became less safe in many cases. New catalytic converters and better fuel efficency helped the air quality. Having the exact same trends in Europe and Asia called for more efficient engines, smaller cars, and higher fuel prices. From those, public transportation increased, pollution drastically decreased, and hybrid and fuel cell engines are becoming huge musts for energy independence and reduced pollution. A pollution free, hydrogen based transportation system is being heavily invested in Japan and Singapore. They also fully understand that oil is nonrenewable.

Back in the US, a loophole existed for these SUV light trucks to be developed without regard to fuel usage or pollution. Automakers make a fortune from these things, and Americans buy them due to heavy advertising. Small cars are being pitted against large trucks and tragically losing in accidents. America's foreign oil dependence is well over 60% now and climbing. We can't produce enough oil here because it is already gone or rapidly depleting. Pollution rates along with respiratory health problems are at increasing rates due to the increase in carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and sulfur dioxides from the big SUV craze. Government is very concerned about our oil dependence and the role the US must play in oil rich countries to protect our oil interests. They don't want to forbid SUVs, but want to encourage people to understand the problems and buy hybrid engine and fuel cell vehicles once available. Bush's energy plan reaches everything from responsible vehicle tax credits to research on nuclear fusion to renewable energy to reducing the global warming problems.

No matter much extra work one does on recycling or garbage pickup, transportation consequences are overwhelming on many facets. They affect our national security, our air quality, our respiratory health quality, our national resources and parks protection, and our highway safety. This SUV craze is a complete backward and dangerous trend for America! Owning an SUV condones environmental destruction, reduced national security, inordinate resource depletion, and reduced highway safety.

For more information, visit www.fueleconomy.gov which further details this serious problem. Many government groups, health organizations, respectable environmental groups, and world scientists and coming out on this issue, and would like the American consumer to know the truth about the many pitfalls of these vehicles called SUVs.

What does everyone think about your SUV? Please let me know, thanks.
 

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Everyone I know seems to like mine. And I was damn glad that my wife was in my Expedition when she was t-Boned by some moron without insurance instead of a cracker-box electric car. My SUV can and will be repaired. Fortunately that smurfhole's Toyota won't run again for some time maybe saving his or someone else's life.
 

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i do not own a SUV but i own one damn large car. i would not be caught dead in a small car again. i was t-boned in a BMW 3series and was in the hospital for 8 weeks for a severe concussion and recovering for a shattered femur. i had to learn how to walk all over. My wife was in her 92 caprice and was tboned by a 75 or 76 tbird and walked away and her impact was at a faster and she got spun around several times on top of it.

i prefer larger cars and will be getting my wife an Excursion probably after the first of the year.
 

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Bulldoze the rainforest and build a giant shopping mall.
 

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No no no.
That will never work. Sure the rain forest will provide a fair amount of cheap labor, but who will you get to buy spears and poison arrows? Sams Club and Wal-Mart will just come in and undercut all the prices.
 

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Bulldoze your SUV and the hypocritical suburban lifestyle.

The rainforest holds many mysteries, cures for so many diseases, and is a huge sink for all your stupid SUV pollution. There must be a balance between industrial development and natural preservation. Bulldozing the rianforests would provide immediate disaster, but at least you wouldn't be around to say Uh Oh bad idea. I guess your "bulldoze the rainforest" comment shows your lack of intelligence as equal as your decision to buy a landbarge.
 

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yO fedup, why cry about SUVs when there are much larger vehicles (of many kinds) at your local contruction site that polute MUCH more than ANY SUV (probably) in the world!

Do you know how to find positive things for your life?
You can start by not comming back to this site!
Second you should go down the street and protest at your local Chevy truck dealership and do all your crying there, not here!

Thanks.
Happy New Year
 

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Re: Bulldoze your SUV and the hypocritical suburban lifestyle.

fedup said:
The rainforest holds many mysteries, cures for so many diseases, and is a huge sink for all your stupid SUV pollution. There must be a balance between industrial development and natural preservation. Bulldozing the rianforests would provide immediate disaster, but at least you wouldn't be around to say Uh Oh bad idea. I guess your "bulldoze the rainforest" comment shows your lack of intelligence as equal as your decision to buy a landbarge.
Apparently sarcasm and wit is lost on you. If you are trying to be enlightened, and productive, that's one thing. But blaming the public for wanting that which is put before them is asinine. Making general comments about a vehicle and their owners shows your ignorance. I don't know who you're trying to persuade here, but you are going about it in the wrong way.
 

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Fedup...Why dont you go talk to your shrink..she'll help better then any of will, or even care to. Resolve your issues and repost something more logical, rather than blaming all the problems in the world on SUV's and there owners. Or better yet...Dont Post at all!

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I like Orange Juice! :hy:
 

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I am not an american, nor am I an SUV owner, but over here in Australia we have just suffered massive bushfires that took many properties, and had the potential to take so many peoples lives. Why is this many people ask. I will tell you why. It is because of so called "environmentalists" like fedup here. They get the bushland closed off and locked up in national parks, these national parks cannot be touched in the ways of good management practices and therefore hazzard reduction burning is not undertaken, fuel for the fires builds up, and bang! we get huge outbreaks every 6 or so years that take peoples lives homes and their memories. We were lucky enough not to loose any lives in this latest outbreaks, but there were several close calls. This is because "environmentalists" try to perserve things unnaturally like our forests which for many millions of years have undergone regular burning naturally, when this was stopped then we started getting these problems.

I know this has nothing to do with the use of SUV's or the apparent pollution that they create, but it is an example of do-gooders goiing wront. Something that happens far to often from my experience.
 
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