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Hi all,

I have an 88 EA S-Pack and besides the fact I should throw it down a salt mine, I was wondering if anyone has encountered the same problem I am having now.

It is basically flooding first time you try and start it, you might get it started but you have to keep it above about 2000rpm or else it dies. If you do get it driving and you stop, you stop till its not flooded anymore (ie an hour!).

Being stupid teenagers who know it all. we thought it might not having been getting enough fuel, so we changed the fuel filter.
Alas, we were wrong.
Checked the spark plugs and they are absolutly covered in fuel, drowned in it.
So we took them out and dryed them and it started, but again they got drowned straight away and the bastard died.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem at all? I called the RACV (laugh and point if you want) and the guy seems to think its either a problem with the MAP Sensor or the TFI Module. Does anyone have any ideas if this is right or wrong? Has anyone had this problem themselves and knows how to fix it?

Thanks in Advance.
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starting problem

could well be/map sensor vacume hose cracked or split.faulty map sensor.fuel pressure next may need to be checked.faulty throttle positioning switch.i realy feel that the problem is map sensor related.
 
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Hello Elhiro
I first would like to welcome you to the board. I am not sure what the problem is on your ride, but I will take it to a pro. This guy has over 30 years of wrenching under his belt, He has built some very fast Ford's from junk yard parts. Not because he wants to, but he had to, ( Money You Know ). Just to give you an idea, most X brand cars and truck start to smoke and miss when he pulls beside them at the light in his latest venture, witch is a 59 Ranchero with a 410 FE, C6, and 410 gears. that got into the hi 11's at the strip. Any way its 6:30 am here in Michigan when he gets up I will run your problem past him at get back to you some time today.

Good Day to you
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Elhiro

If you are having problems and suspect faulty map sensor etc. the first thing you should do after visual inpection would be to retrieve the fault codes from the computer. They should point you in the right direction. This is easily done on an eec iv vehicle and the appropriate Gregorys Manual for the vehicle can give you the proceedure and relevent codes.
Another possibility especially with central point fuel injection , if that is the case, from previous experience with a mates car could be a leaky injector.
Hope this helps!
 

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We had one come in a while ago doing the same sort of thing. It ended up being the computer. Also the sump on this thing was full of petrol that had found its way in there. Check your basics first all vacuum lines/wires to sensors. Also check to see if there are any fault codes...
 

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leaking injectors perhaps??

Your injectors may be leaking if its a central point (CPI).

Could only be injector orings. two orings per injector!
 

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sounds like the same problem my bro had with his EA. It was the injector o rings leaking (CFI).
Also, like the others have already said, check ALL vacuum hoses for cracks/holes/leaks (its critical) and make sure that all the earth connections are clean (engine and body)
 
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SOLUTION!

Thanks to all those who gave their advice and most of you were on the ball in one way or another.

the bastard had 3 things wrong with it
the funniest thing is that even the mechanic couldnt figure out what was going on at all
In the end it was the distributor that was gone and kept leaving the injectors open, then when he shut it off the injectors went ape ****, changed the distributor, she started but ran like the piece of junk, another check of the error codes found a faulty oxygen sensor, changed that, she starts but still sounds like absoulte ****. Previously before we had fixed the problem we found that 4 spark plugs were drencned but two were bone dry. 2 Dead fuel injectors.....come on down!
Quickly changed them, set the timing and baby is back in town, infact its never run better, I left the shop went around the corner and nearly lost the it when i put the power down. I think I saw the mechanic laughing at me too :D

thanks to all those who helped :D
 

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Re: SOLUTION!

elhiro said:
Thanks to all those who gave their advice and most of you were on the ball in one way or another.

the bastard had 3 things wrong with it
the funniest thing is that even the mechanic couldnt figure out what was going on at all
In the end it was the distributor that was gone and kept leaving the injectors open, then when he shut it off the injectors went ape ****, changed the distributor, she started but ran like the piece of junk, another check of the error codes found a faulty oxygen sensor, changed that, she starts but still sounds like absoulte ****. Previously before we had fixed the problem we found that 4 spark plugs were drencned but two were bone dry. 2 Dead fuel injectors.....come on down!
Quickly changed them, set the timing and baby is back in town, infact its never run better, I left the shop went around the corner and nearly lost the it when i put the power down. I think I saw the mechanic laughing at me too :D
thanks to all those who helped :D
Good stuff mate, good to see your baby is sorted. Glad your happy with the power delivery. Now the next task is to show those Holden guys abit of "FORD POWER". :D :D
 

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Re: SOLUTION!

elhiro said:
Thanks to all those who gave their advice and most of you were on the ball in one way or another.

the bastard had 3 things wrong with it
the funniest thing is that even the mechanic couldnt figure out what was going on at all
In the end it was the distributor that was gone and kept leaving the injectors open, then when he shut it off the injectors went ape ****, changed the distributor, she started but ran like the piece of junk, another check of the error codes found a faulty oxygen sensor, changed that, she starts but still sounds like absoulte ****. Previously before we had fixed the problem we found that 4 spark plugs were drencned but two were bone dry. 2 Dead fuel injectors.....come on down!
Quickly changed them, set the timing and baby is back in town, infact its never run better, I left the shop went around the corner and nearly lost the it when i put the power down. I think I saw the mechanic laughing at me.




Helo Elhiro, if thats your real name we will go into that later anyway Rory! i want to know who recommended this magic mechanic and got you a cheaper hourly rate and did'nt get a thankyou, and also booked it in for you? and also spent about an hour and a 1/2 getting his hands dirty!
 
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